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tmttactical: Senior American prepper. Senior as in age. A fair number of years prepping in urban environments. Was know in some places as Urbanprep but decided to shift back to my original I.D. location is the Arizona valley, USA.
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texasjim: SA..im a half hour drive from Jacksonville tx.
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Post by remnantprep on Jun 28, 2017 9:07:55 GMT 10
A couple of months back we were out for dinner and there was a female police officer waiting to pick up her food. The reaction my daughter had to her was very sweet, she would shyly look over at her and was whispering to her dad that the officer had a gun on her side! It took us a while to convince her to go up and say hello and it was interesting when she finally did. The officer said to my daughter "You are scared of me aren't me you?" and proceeded to explain why there was no need to be afraid and that the police were there to keep us safe and that they only put the bad people in prison etc. She told us that we could bring our daughter to the station to get to know the police people there as part of connecting with the community.
In light of this, in what ways do you teach your children to know the difference between good authority and bad authority (as in dictatorships etc)? Teaching children to blindly follow authority is not a good idea but rather teach them how to question it and how to sort out good from bad!
My father always taught me the the police were our friends and we should listen to them and go to them for help. If you are separated from a young child for whatever reason- the best thing the child could do is approach a police officer for help. Likewise if there is an incident at the school or wherever and there is shooting and bombs going off, or a traffic accident - the police officer tries to help the children but he children all run away in fear - it is not a good result. A child should never be taught to fear the police, but comply.
Irrespective we should teach people to listen to the police. In the US many people are shot or injured because they refuse to listen to the police. If the police give you an instruction or pull you over and comply, you can deal with any unjust handling through the courts later.
Sure if people break into your house and threaten you there are no police telling you what to do so you take whatever steps you think are necessary. A local community judge told me once that the police have very little understanding of the law so don't necessarily take their legal advice.
Last Edit: Jun 28, 2017 17:31:17 GMT 10 by spatial
I taught my children what was, in my opinion, morally right and wrong. The law was irrelevant. You always did what was morally right, even if it was against the law.
For example, if someone invades your home and attacks your family, you use lethal force until they are no longer a threat. What the law or police say is irrelevant. The police can be as much your enemy as your friend.
I agree. And there is a lot more to this subject than a simple respect. I have a reasonable amount of experience in this field as well as education.
The Police are bound by a system which has many broken procedures which call 'good' as 'evil' and 'evil' as 'good', Frost has brought up one such.
Along with this, it is not possible to obey all the laws of the land as there are simply too many, and many which take away and or restrict human rights. Citizens have no clue when they are breaking many laws, so it is not possible to be a law keeper 100% as you will fail.
Along with this, the issue of 'over-criminalisation'. That being put upon 'civil' matters is absurd. You can be seen as a criminal if your dog isnt registered, or you put in a water tank without a permit or you dig a hole in the ground for a pond, or you clear an area of a local plant which is protected, or you burn an old log which 'might' have been habitat for a lizard, or you type something on this site which is just freedom of expression and discussion of a matter to look into it and consider it, et cetera et cetera.
Our system works by votes, not necessarily citizens votes. Of course they vote in their respective person who then has to shake hands with everyone else who might be a nutcase, take the Greens for instance. If they get their way, youll get fined for not walking your dog everyday in the Gold Coast! So the Bean counter you voted for wants to push his Bill (Law) through parliment to have it accepted, but the Bean counter from the Greens holds the vote to stop it unless your Bean counter lets his 'Dog Fine' Law go through, and your Bean counter does it, and thus we are now deemed as 'criminals' if we dont walk the dog.
The Police are those who are to be the 'enforcers' of Laws, they are not be here nor their of them by the letter of the Law.
I personally refuse the allegation that i am 'evil' or a 'criminal' if i fail to walk my dog, what about you?
So should the police be respected, yes of course, but more importantly, it is important to be educated as to who and what their Boss is, in order to understand the office we are to respect and fear rightly, from the aspect of the office that binds them to do nasty things to good people just trying to live clean and right.
I feel very sorry for Police Officers today as a result of the system they must serve under, and of which forces them contrary to their conscience and better judgment in many cases, i am aware their are many good officers out there, as well as many calloused. My children are taught to respect Authority, but to understand the balance of a broken system they serve under.
Nobody special & always learning. Prepping now and prepped for eternity!