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Post by frostbite on Dec 13, 2020 16:33:31 GMT 10
I normally pay a 50% premium by buying Edgel brand canned vegetables (eg: canned corn $1:50 compared to foreign sourced canned corn at $1 per can).
I do this because, although Edgel is owned by an American company, they use Australian grown product. Well not anymore, it seems. The can of corn I picked up today still had the premium price, but according to the little label on the back of the can was actually cheap corn from Thailand.
Lift your game Edgel.
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Post by norseman on Dec 14, 2020 6:12:10 GMT 10
A lot of foodstuff labelled Made in / Product of New Zealand is actually Chinese grown and shipped bulk to NZ where it is packaged or canned for resale in Australia!
Also watch out for "Proudly Australian Owned" it's a scam I'm seeing more and more with food labelling!
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Post by Beno on Dec 14, 2020 7:21:48 GMT 10
“Proudly Australian Owned” using products from the shit fields/ponds of china. This is what the kiwis are doing now, grown in NZ. It it kosher? I dunno.
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Post by Tim Horton on Dec 14, 2020 8:40:17 GMT 10
Yes.... Reading labels is VERY important.. But getting harder to do.. Like said.. The words used make it hard to dredge the truth from the label.. "Throw the cow over the fence, some hay" is a valid statement.. IF you can pick out the root meaning.. Maybe not a good example, but you get what I mean..
For instance.... It has been a while ago now, but for a while here Kellogg (US) breakfast cereals some said on the label Product of China.. That stopped quite shortly.. I called there customer service number and all they would admit to was, Corn Flakes for instance, was produced in North America.. Now that technically could include Mexico.. Product of Mexico is not always a comforting statement to read.. In my opinion..
So we do not knowingly buy any products produced by Kellogg anymore..
If in doubt, put it back..
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Post by bushdoc2 on Dec 15, 2020 20:57:11 GMT 10
If in doubt, put it back.. And let them know why. eg. Store manager, producer, friends, facebook account....spread the word that the reason you refused to buy it was the fact that it was made in Elbonia, or the fact that it vaguely tried to BS you.
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Post by SA Hunter on Dec 15, 2020 22:02:36 GMT 10
I looked at the Edgel corn in our local Woolworths & Foodland - all "Grown in Australia". Same with my pantry - all "Grown in Australia". Must be a new line out on the East Coast - I will be watching it closely now.
Though the Edgel Red Kidney Beans are product of the USA.
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Post by frostbite on Dec 16, 2020 5:54:26 GMT 10
The Edgel corn was product of Thailand, but the Salt Reduced corn was still grown in Australia. I went to write to Edgel but they want your name, address, phone number, email, sexual preference (backpacker, Vietnamese, 25-32 yo), before you can leave feedback.
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Post by norseman on Dec 16, 2020 6:25:33 GMT 10
Anything labelled "Product of........." is dodgy! There is absolutely no guarantee that it was grown in that country, the "Product" you are buying is a can of beans or corn!
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Post by bug on Dec 17, 2020 8:28:35 GMT 10
A lot of foodstuff labelled Made in / Product of New Zealand is actually Chinese grown and shipped bulk to NZ where it is packaged or canned for resale in Australia! Also watch out for "Proudly Australian Owned" it's a scam I'm seeing more and more with food labelling! Yep. I won't buy food that is "product of New Zealand" until they stop letting other countries use them as a way to bypass our food labelling laws. Amazing that NZ farmers aren't up in arms about it.
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Post by illuminati on Dec 21, 2020 0:28:28 GMT 10
If it says grown in NZ it’s grown there right? Are you saying they write that but actually it’s from outside NZ? Isn’t that false advertising.
I often see products with the made in Australia triangle and it’s got a percentage. Often 0%. It makes it look “oh great made in Australia, it’s to the green made in Australia logo” but if you examine it it’s 0%. They should put a different logo on it, a 🚫over the made in Australia (striked out).
When it is some percentage Australian (say 100%) it will say “made from Australian and overseas ingredients”, so it might be overseas corn with some Australian tap water.
I try to buy Australian bacon from woolies or coles and it’s all foreign. There will be 50 different types, many brands many varieties, all foreign. The home brand all the same. There’s only coles aussie short cut bacon. And a British style bacon that’s Australian (Probably by some expat brits). You’d think the local supermarket chains would get local produce for their home brands. But I guess some how it’s cheaper to ship it from overseas.
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Post by illuminati on Dec 21, 2020 0:29:44 GMT 10
I asked at their deli counter and it’s all foreign too. I should try a butchers.
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Post by spinifex on Dec 21, 2020 8:22:21 GMT 10
You’d think the local supermarket chains would get local produce for their home brands. But I guess some how it’s cheaper to ship it from overseas. I have friends who own big businesses in the horticultural industry who find it easier to export to overseas markets than to try and work with coles and woolworths!
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Post by bug on Dec 21, 2020 17:40:29 GMT 10
If it says grown in NZ it’s grown there right? Are you saying they write that but actually it’s from outside NZ? Isn’t that false advertising. I'd say yes it's false advertising. NZ has looser packaging laws than we do. They bring in produce from the CCP, put it in a can in NZ and send to Australia as "product of NZ". It works well for NZ as otherwise they'd be competing with produce going direct from the CCP to Australia. This way they get to do the canning. Most people are completely unaware of this practice.
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Post by Beno on Dec 21, 2020 19:04:27 GMT 10
“Product of” surely is different to “grown in”. You can’t BS that much and maintain your product. oh hang on they probably can.
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Post by spinifex on Dec 22, 2020 8:18:58 GMT 10
If it says grown in NZ it’s grown there right? Are you saying they write that but actually it’s from outside NZ? Isn’t that false advertising. I'd say yes it's false advertising. NZ has looser packaging laws than we do. They bring in produce from the CCP, put it in a can in NZ and send to Australia as "product of NZ". It works well for NZ as otherwise they'd be competing with produce going direct from the CCP to Australia. This way they get to do the canning. Most people are completely unaware of this practice. The packaging plants in NZ are probably owned by Chinese investors too. Similar things happen with many 'Australian' businesses!
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Post by Tim Horton on Jan 9, 2021 9:39:43 GMT 10
Shortly after all this was brought up..... In our local mega grocery I found canned corn, and cream corn in no name cans for quite cheap... Label said product of Tai Land.... No way in hell was that going to happen...
Now yesterday I see they had green beans and peas, saying product of Spain... OK.. We got one can of each and will give them a try.. Once anyway...
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Post by Stealth on Jan 9, 2021 18:27:33 GMT 10
If you can, go for your local farming consortium. We've used a couple over the years and while you don't always get food that you'd normally use (celeriac? really? lol) it can really open up your doors to new foods and make sure that you're supporting local. It's becoming really popular to use services like that around us, despite being townies. It's only very slightly more expensive than buying it in stores and while it's not accessible for everyone it's not that much more difficult than a trip to the local supermarket for me so I'm all over it .
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Post by feralemma on Jan 17, 2021 16:27:28 GMT 10
As far as pork products go, if it's 60% or over Australian components the actual pork is Australian produced and if it has a bone in it is Auatralian produced pork.
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Post by doglover on Jan 17, 2021 23:38:06 GMT 10
I agree that supporting your local farmers and businesses is wise. Even then, if you don’t grow or raise it yourself you really don’t know what kinds of chemicals are in it. But at least you will still have a local economy that can help you sustain yourself during hard times. I toured a large canning facility many years ago and learned something about advertising. In the same facility, using the same product, they were putting different company labels on the cans. Some of those companies charged double for their supposedly premium products vs the value brands. Same stuff.....
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Post by Tim Horton on Jan 18, 2021 3:23:44 GMT 10
Some of those companies charged double for their supposedly premium products vs the value brands. Same stuff.....
+++ When I had my old farm place.. There was a green bean canning plant 2 towns over.. Talking to a guy who trucked canned beans out, empty cans and labels in.. He saying they had a dozen or more labels on hand they canned for.. They trucked harvested beans in the conveyor bottom trucks, same as used in the potato fields..
It was fun to see the bean harvesters go through the area.. They are a reasonably conventional looking combine, with a short header so they can travel the back roads.. Marching along like you would see a string of circus elephants traveling.. The bad part was the next day after they harvest a field it stinks worse than a skunk in your pocket.. Extremely good green fertilizer, if it gets turned in soon..
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