fei
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Post by fei on Mar 10, 2021 19:34:17 GMT 10
I've noticed a lot of electronic goods are now coming from SE asian countries besides China. Vietnam seems to be the standout. Agree that customer service does not exist post-purchase for any industrial goods...but they'll line up to sell you a replacement. Have had this argument many times with the 'cheapest is best' types at my company. The racism endemic in China is something that Australia's snowflakes could not understand and would choose to ignore if confronted with it. From my experience, westerners are seen as some sort of idiotic cash cow that keeps coming back for more. Would never eat something from there, knowing the attitudes of the people who made it. Unknowingly having chinese products sneak it's way into something I bought is one thing, going out an knowingly consuming something from there is another. One of my former colleagues works for a China-based but UK-owned company that produces apparel for many of the big European and US brands. The company had around 400 factories of varying sizes in China ten years ago, but over the past decade has closed them all down and moved to facilities in Vietnam, Myanmar (Burma), Bangladesh, Cambodia and a couple of African countries due to the spiralling costs in China. Was talking to her the other day after not speaking for a year or so. Seems COVID has tolled the death knell for their factories in Africa, the coup has done in their Myanmar factories and some other issues in Bangladesh. They are now moving all production to Vietnam and Cambodia, with all main HQ functions pretty much all moved from China down to Vietnam. This lady has also been working in China for twenty years off and on, and says Vietnam is basically where China was around the early to mid-2000s...all the big brands are doing their manufacturing there now; the government is very cooperative with foreign investors; the people are happy to be working (obviously for a low wage) and the expat staff happy to be getting "hardship allowances" although living in nice accommodation.
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Post by feralemma on Mar 17, 2021 13:43:08 GMT 10
Chinese machinery has proven that it doesn't have the manufacturing quality (or even the physical weight to get the job done in the case of pay loaders) and the after sales service is usually terrible and parts are hard to get. Buyers have been burnt so are spending their money where they get value for it! Its a funny thing with the Chinese made stuff i mean they are the masters of copying everything but still make cheap junk and a good example of this is Caterpillar loaders are made in china especially the 972m series and i mean made and assembled in china whereas a 330f cat excavator is made in japan. you cant tell the difference in build quality between the machines so you would think the Chinese would be like ok this is how you make good gear I don't think it's a lack of capability or technology, it's the care factor of zero and the drive for maximum profit!
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bug
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Post by bug on Mar 17, 2021 15:51:35 GMT 10
China's one child policy has seriously damaged their economic power. Nobody wants their little emperor working in a sweatshop for peanuts.
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fei
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Post by fei on Mar 20, 2021 15:14:51 GMT 10
China's one child policy has seriously damaged their economic power. Nobody wants their little emperor working in a sweatshop for peanuts. Yep, although they may have to if the economy keeps stagnating. There was lots of publicity last year about uni grads only able to get work as takeaway food delivery guys (basically the local version of the barista with a masters degree). Then again, one of the main reasons the factories moved overseas was because workers were getting too expensive. The days of people working for a dollar an hour are long gone, plus the central government now oversees the superannuation schemes, so companies not paying into it get big fines (many companies never bothered to pay tax, pension, medicare etc for their workers).
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Post by Joey on Mar 23, 2021 19:49:02 GMT 10
I'll be sending messages to those who are interested in the giveaways items over the next week so I can get them posted in the next 2 weeks for you
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Post by Joey on Jul 10, 2021 15:56:46 GMT 10
So sorry guys for not getting in contact with those about the items, things been hectic with work since my house move and finally dug the box of bits out.
If you're still interested please let me know below and I'll send you a PM.
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Post by Stealth on Jul 10, 2021 16:56:06 GMT 10
Still interested Joey. Glad the move got sorted, hope you're settled in
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hd1340
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Post by hd1340 on Jul 10, 2021 17:28:58 GMT 10
Likewise, still interested. Been hetic for a lot of us lately.
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Tri-Polar
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Post by Tri-Polar on Jul 10, 2021 18:02:50 GMT 10
Keen to try any long shelf life meals you have, be nice to give em ago before bulk purchase.
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Post by Joey on Jul 11, 2021 12:12:53 GMT 10
PM's sent
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Post by malewithatail on Jul 11, 2021 12:30:29 GMT 10
The Chinese way of doing things...Get a product, pull it apart and work out how its made, build one.....then build another, using slightly thinner materials, or smaller fasteners etc, then test it, if it still works, build another using slightly smaller materials again, test and repeat until it fails. Take one step back and that's what u build to sell.
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Tri-Polar
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Post by Tri-Polar on Aug 6, 2021 12:12:41 GMT 10
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hd1340
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Post by hd1340 on Mar 10, 2022 23:42:26 GMT 10
Apologies Joey just found the space blanket whilst unpacking some more boxes from our move back to WA seems to be a bit thicker and more durable than the normal emergency blankets will give it a proper test and more thorough review when we get a cold night.
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Post by Tim Horton on Mar 11, 2022 12:11:48 GMT 10
Joey..... I have enjoyed the things you have posted about... I am interested in stuff... And could offer an evaluation from a different prospective.. That being the far "Great White North" ...
However I suppose postage, shipping prohibits me from any chance of participating.. Bugger..
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Post by Joey on Mar 11, 2022 20:00:18 GMT 10
Yeah, international shipping isn't the cheapest at the moment for things sadly.
I've still got a heap of the bickies left if anyone wants to try them
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