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Post by remnantprep on Mar 15, 2014 12:27:37 GMT 10
Have known of them for a while but only just ordered today, will let you all know what it is like! settlersfoods.com.au/
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2014 14:06:57 GMT 10
Thanks Rem, I just ordered 1 of each of the 125gram, and the 1kg veggies and the lemon/lime energy drink!
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Post by remnantprep on Mar 15, 2014 14:29:54 GMT 10
We got the sampler pack that has 12 satchets and two lots of vegies! We did think about the drink but decided not to for now!
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Post by shinester on Mar 15, 2014 16:03:11 GMT 10
Did the sums on this, seems like pretty decent value, particularly for the minced beef because it works out to be $13.80/kg wet weight - 125g packs $9.13/kg wet weight - 1kg packs. $8.13/kg wet weight - 5kg/packs
Compare that to what we pay for fresh mince that's 97% fat free in the supermarket. The flavoured items make it harder to compare though of course you have the potential convenience of it being pre-flavoured. The mixed veggies [about $3/kg wet weight] are about twice the cost of getting cheapo frozen veggies and dehydrating yourself, though they are more convenient. Beans are still a cheaper source of protein, though over-all I'm impressed and will probably get some.
Any ideas on the best before dates?
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Post by remnantprep on Mar 15, 2014 18:31:20 GMT 10
Man can not live on beans alone! Well at least this woman can't! Haha
From their site:
Long Shelf Life
Our unique process ensures Settlers Beef mince keeps for many months, even when opened without the need for artificial preservatives or refrigeration. Our dried food products have a shelf life of 18 months as indicated by the "best before" date stamped on the packet, or in the case of catering (1kg and 5kg) packets we provide a "packed on" date. The "best before" date is indicative only and in most cases the shelf life will extend far beyond this period providing the product is properly stored and sensibly handled.
We regularly retain sample products for testing purposes and routinely undertake quality controls. We have found that our dried mince retains all of its flavour and freshness even on packets that have been stored for up to 10 years. In some cases, our herbed and seasoned minces lose a little flavour over extended time due to the nature of herbs and seasonings. If you intend to store your products beyond the "best before" period, we recommend purchasing our plain dried mince and then adding your favourite herbs and spices at the time of cooking.
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Post by sentinel on Mar 15, 2014 19:27:47 GMT 10
Did the sums on this, seems like pretty decent value, particularly for the minced beef because it works out to be $13.80/kg wet weight - 125g packs $9.13/kg wet weight - 1kg packs. $8.13/kg wet weight - 5kg/packs Compare that to what we pay for fresh mince that's 97% fat free in the supermarket. The flavoured items make it harder to compare though of course you have the potential convenience of it being pre-flavoured. The mixed veggies [about $3/kg wet weight] are about twice the cost of getting cheapo frozen veggies and dehydrating yourself, though they are more convenient. Beans are still a cheaper source of protein, though over-all I'm impressed and will probably get some. Any ideas on the best before dates? From memory it's law in Australia to put a use by, best before or packed on date on all foods sold, the only thing that escapes this sort of loop hole is water that's sold with the claims they make - legislation on bottled water in Australia is a very loose and grey area. Some of our imports are suss as well due to loose legislation Canada and New Zealand are riddled with Chinese produce. But on your question - keep the goods out of the sun and pest free and they will last well past those dates.
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Post by shinester on Mar 15, 2014 22:00:37 GMT 10
Remnantprep: Cool, yeah that's what I would have expected from them really and I get the best before is where they maintain their most nutrients, best taste etc etc. I think it's definitely a source for mince, and so a compliment for the canned fish/beans I have. I'll probably grab a KG and do some cooking before committing and thanks again for the linky. Sentinel: Yeah bud, with you on the dates, just curious as to what they claim their life is They're probably not kept in CO2/nitrogen so it might even be worth ripping them out and putting in mylar with O2 absorbers.
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Post by pheniox17 on Mar 16, 2014 11:37:49 GMT 10
the web site says 5+ years..
I'm tempted to order a "sample" give us a review if you try their food
from what I seen, its vacuumed packed dry goods?? so they may have a o2 absorber installed??
the meat side sparks my interest
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Post by shinester on Mar 16, 2014 12:58:08 GMT 10
They do mention wholesale haha. Makes me tempted to get a 'wholesale' amount for my stores
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Post by remnantprep on Mar 25, 2014 11:35:50 GMT 10
Ok so our order arrived and we see that the mince contains both meat and tvp! Tvp is textured vegetable protein which is made from soy! I should have read the nutritional advice on the website better but at the top of their product info it says About our products 100% Australian Beef We use only 100% prime grass fed Australian Beef in all of our mince products, and our products are rated for export under the Export Control Act 1982, including compliance with the Australian Quarantine and Inspection Service (AQIS) and HACCP. In fact we export our products to satisfied customers both Australia wide and worldwide. All of our products are manufactured in Australia and meet strict Australian national food quality standards including compliance with the AUSMEAT Standard of Accreditation. but further down the page it says Apart from 100% Australian Beef, we use only natural ocean salt, vitamin C and soy proteins in our products. Vitamin C is otherwise known as Ascorbic Acid (BHA300). Soy protein (T.V.P.) is derived from natural soy. Our herbs and spices are sourced from quality Australian suppliers. Some of our products may contain gluten. Wikipedia TVP is usually made from high (50%) soy protein soy flour or concentrate, but can also be made from cotton seeds, wheat, and oats. It is extruded into various shapes (chunks, flakes, nuggets, grains, and strips) and sizes, exiting the nozzle while still hot and expanding as it does so.[5] The defatted thermoplastic proteins are heated to 150–200°C, which denatures them into a fibrous, insoluble, porous network that can soak up as much as three times its weight in liquids. As the pressurized molten protein mixture exits the extruder, the sudden drop in pressure causes rapid expansion into a puffy solid that is then dried. As much as 50% protein when dry, TVP can be rehydrated at a 2:1 ratio, which drops the percentage of protein to an approximation of ground meat at 16%. TVP is primarily used as a meat substitute due to its very low cost at less than a third the price of ground beef, and when cooked together will help retain more weight from the meat by absorbing juices normally lost.[2]Many TVP producers use hexane to separate soy fat from soy protein, and trace amounts of the solvent are left after manufacturing. But the few rodent studies that have been done suggest it would be almost impossible to get enough hexane from TVP to cause harm.[6] www.evolvingwellness.com/essay/what-you-need-to-know-before-you-eat-textured-vegetable-protein-tvpHexane is a byproduct of gasoline refining. Soybean processors use it as a solvent—a cheap and efficient way of extracting oil from soybeans, a necessary step to making most conventional soy oil and protein ingredients. Whole soybeans are literally bathed in hexane to separate the soybeans’ oil from protein. Ok i will not eat this stuff and have contacted them to ask to return them! The vegies are ok but the onion in them is more like onion flakes!
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Post by shinester on Mar 25, 2014 19:49:56 GMT 10
Oh dear. Well some good news then, I've found 2 wholesalers for beans in Victoria that sell 25kg bags, which would take care of your protein.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 20:17:57 GMT 10
I think for a survival scenario, medically to eat TVP in such low amounts would not prove harmful! I think long term we should be able to find natural meat/protein sources as well as other fresh food!
Until then these types of food will sustain us till we can be self-sufficient! That is why I have said that putting away comfort food is OK.!!!
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Post by myrrph on Mar 26, 2014 12:55:10 GMT 10
the sampler set looks awesome. looks like there are only a few flavours I'd like. Hope they sell their 12 pack boxes at their 1kg pack prices :X
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2014 7:07:30 GMT 10
My food turned up yesterday! I will try them over the next week and give my opinion!
The veggies I think are reasonable priced, but I will ask how much for 10kg?
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Post by myrrph on Mar 27, 2014 11:15:58 GMT 10
oh yes dr Gaz! lol ... i'm actually keen to try if they ship overseas.
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Post by shinester on Mar 28, 2014 0:28:37 GMT 10
Yeah, might be interesting to know if they do some kind of bulk deal. I'm not super keen to dehydrate the further 95kg of frozen veggies if I don't have to
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 7:32:52 GMT 10
Yeah, might be interesting to know if they do some kind of bulk deal. I'm not super keen to dehydrate the further 95kg of frozen veggies if I don't have to I looked at the cost of doing my own and with buying and drying, and time costs, $18 per killo is not bad! Even the cheap dried peas at the Supermarket works out to 13.50 per kilo and the better brand works out to 32.00 per kilo! So 100kg of frozen veggies should work out to be 20-25kg (Being generous..LOL)of dehydrated! @18.00 = $360.00- @450.00 and put in Mylar will last 15-20years! Remembering these are freeze dried and retain more goodness than dehydrating... Just a thought!
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Post by shinester on Mar 28, 2014 9:03:34 GMT 10
Gaz, it says dehydrated 1kg of frozen veggies = 125gms, cost $1.49 + electricity a max of 25c. If I put in 3kg and run for 16 hrs or so. It will be less than that actually as the heater of the dehydrators not on all of the time. My figure's $1.74/kg of 'wet' weight and $13.92 dry. So versus $18.50, there's certainly a potentially convenience factor, throw in the easy storage and I'm probably going to buy. From my experience veggies are reduced by about 8 times, so for 1 person a years supply would be about 13kg Veggies are also the lowest priority after you get 3 or so months owning to their ease of growing, though of course you have them mostly for their vitamins and minerals. Some dehydrated carrots $22/2kg. HERE
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Post by shinester on Mar 29, 2014 10:56:52 GMT 10
Waiting on an exact pricing/size but on an enquiry, 13kg [10kg + 3kg] is $17.50/kg so even cheaper I've still got 10kg of frozen veggies that I will do but I think this is the way I'm going this way. $181 versus $227+[postage] and no labour.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Mar 29, 2014 14:24:41 GMT 10
While I would be concerned about consuming certain chemicals and foods treated with certain chemicals, we are all exposed to far worse things in far larger quantities on a regular bases, my hat goes off to you for doing the research and discovering the hidden nasties in these products though Remnantprep, your certainly doing your best to cover all angles, and thank you for the website too.
We will be trying some of this stuff out I think.
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