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Post by norseman on Jan 20, 2022 12:22:29 GMT 10
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Post by Tim Horton on Jan 20, 2022 15:22:17 GMT 10
Some might think... If no good crisis is available to jump on... Create a crisis....
Either one makes political head lines or sells news papers....
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Post by Tim Horton on Jan 20, 2022 15:24:49 GMT 10
Delete duplicate.. How can I delete, erase the box this is in and not just the message ?? Or does that take the master key to do ??
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Post by Stealth on Jan 20, 2022 16:54:56 GMT 10
Some might think... If no good crisis is available to jump on... Create a crisis.... Either one makes political head lines or sells news papers.... Yep. This is 100% a non-story. Australia issued a "Do Not Travel" when it came to the US warning back in March 2020. And even now we've had the USA at an 'exercise high caution due to covid 19' warning for ages. We've been telling Aussies to either not travel or be extremely cautious of travel to the US for absolutely ages . Literally just a puff piece getting all angsty over something we did two years ago and haven't entirely walked back yet. "As if the US can talk". More like "As if WE can talk"! Typical point the finger over something that our own country is 'guilty' of purely for distraction purposes. And I'd argue it's not guilty. It's entirely sensible and logical for both countries to issue health and travel warnings.
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Post by frostbite on Jan 20, 2022 18:36:00 GMT 10
Just so long as NZ doesn't issue a travel warning to Aus. I want to collect on my bet with Bce1.
Looking good so far, all those vaxxed working around me are dropping like flies with the covid. None of the unvaxxed in my team caught it yet. I can almost taste that cigar and whisky.
And the icing on the cake is Scomo opening the backpacker floodgates.
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Post by Tri-Polar on Jan 20, 2022 19:50:59 GMT 10
Finally, their accents (not the westy ones) aggravate me to the point for no reason i want to hit them. When the military games on last year no one would let me on the shop floor, haha
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Post by norseman on Jan 21, 2022 2:44:08 GMT 10
Some might think... If no good crisis is available to jump on... Create a crisis.... Either one makes political head lines or sells news papers.... Yep. This is 100% a non-story. Australia issued a "Do Not Travel" when it came to the US warning back in March 2020. And even now we've had the USA at an 'exercise high caution due to covid 19' warning for ages. We've been telling Aussies to either not travel or be extremely cautious of travel to the US for absolutely ages . Literally just a puff piece getting all angsty over something we did two years ago and haven't entirely walked back yet. "As if the US can talk". More like "As if WE can talk"! Typical point the finger over something that our own country is 'guilty' of purely for distraction purposes. And I'd argue it's not guilty. It's entirely sensible and logical for both countries to issue health and travel warnings. Go deeper folks! I believe there will be more of this as we move further into the year. Only just starting with the possible China / Russia ramp up is my point and thus my "conspiracy nut job" reference. I believe the US will actively discourage their citizens from travelling in our part of the World as we move forward.
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Post by Stealth on Jan 21, 2022 12:02:08 GMT 10
There's a difference between going deeper and flinching at shadows. We're having an outbreak of a pandemic. They've told their citizens to be careful. Not to not travel at all, which is what we did to them. Bit of a long bow to draw to say that the CDC have recommended cautious travel 'because China'.
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Post by norseman on Jan 22, 2022 5:26:45 GMT 10
There's a difference between going deeper and flinching at shadows. We're having an outbreak of a pandemic. They've told their citizens to be careful. Not to not travel at all, which is what we did to them. Bit of a long bow to draw to say that the CDC have recommended cautious travel 'because China'. Stealth I don't flinch at shadows. Governments around the World have been using this strategy to manipulate citizens behaviour through history, if tensions increase expect more of the same rhetoric about travel. Expect more of this soon (US Gov advice):- Australia - Level 4: Do Not Travel (Red Highest Level)
Key Information for Travelers to Australia Avoid travel to Australia. If you must travel to Australia, make sure you are fully vaccinated before travel. Because of the current situation in Australia, even fully vaccinated travelers may be at risk for getting and spreading COVID-19 variants. Travelers should follow recommendations or requirements in Australia, including wearing a mask and staying 6 feet apart from others. Level 4 Travel Health Notices may be determined by level of COVID-19 in the destination or other special considerations.
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Post by norseman on Jan 22, 2022 5:29:15 GMT 10
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Post by spatial on Jan 22, 2022 8:00:06 GMT 10
Well as an Australian living in Australia one cant travel to WA, now shut down border. Kicking the tennis star out of Australia who previously had Covid and would have high immunity, has permanently damaged Australian tourist industry - it will never recover to pre pandemic levels.
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Post by norseman on Jan 22, 2022 8:08:28 GMT 10
If Russia invades the Ukraine then China could use the opportunity to go for Taiwan! Then it'll be on for young and old, the yanks are aware of this! If you see a continuation of these travel warnings irrespective of the guise they take they are a possible red flag! They've already implanted the seed that Australia is not a "safe" place to travel! "Russia currently has more than 120,000 troops amassed along its border with Ukraine. Meanwhile, Chinese military jets and bombers have encroached into Taiwan’s airspace for nearly a year with an alarming frequency.
McCaul, the ranking member on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, warned on Friday that military actions in both Asian and Eastern Europe are beyond mere saber-rattling.
He said believes both countries will be invaded within the next month, with Taiwan facing an invasion following the conclusion of the 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing."
“My prediction is that you’re going to see Russia invading Ukraine in the next month,” McCaul said, the Washington Examiner reported. “And I think after the Olympics … China’s gotten so provocative, so aggressive in the South China Sea that you will begin to see CCP, Communist Party, invade Taiwan.” www.mediaite.com/news/mccaul-on-foreign-affairs-committee-warns-of-imminent-ukraine-invasion-says-taiwan-will-fall-after-olympics/
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Post by bushdoc2 on Jan 22, 2022 18:58:45 GMT 10
"with Taiwan facing an invasion following the conclusion of the 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing."
Or during. Lots of hostages.
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Post by Stealth on Jan 22, 2022 19:41:06 GMT 10
"with Taiwan facing an invasion following the conclusion of the 2022 Winter Olympics in Beijing." Or during. Lots of hostages. Now there's a scary concept. Although I don't know that they'd be that brazen, to keep all those olympians hostage would almost guarantee everyone uniting against you. Any that were fence sitters would likely be tipped over the edge even if their own sportspeople were released. Although kidnapping and disappearing folks is a specialty of theirs so who knows.
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Post by spatial on Jan 22, 2022 21:49:17 GMT 10
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Post by spatial on Jan 22, 2022 22:03:29 GMT 10
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Post by norseman on Jan 23, 2022 1:47:47 GMT 10
US embassy in Ukraine ‘requests staff evacuation’ amid war fearsJem Bartholomew 27 mins ago The US embassy in Ukraine has requested the evacuation of all non-essential staff amid increasing fears of an imminent Russian invasion and the arrival overnight of arms deliveries promised by President Joe Biden, according to a CNN report. US evacuations are likely to start “as early as next week”, the US cable news network said, citing a source close to the Ukrainian government. It marks the embassy’s shift in focus towards “helping Ukraine bolster its defences in the face of growing Russian aggression”. The embassy in Kyiv also said on Twitter that the first batch of fresh US assistance had arrived in Ukraine, which includes weaponry described as “200,000 pounds of lethal aid, including ammunition for the frontline defenders of Ukraine.” It follows Biden’s assertion on Wednesday in a White House address that he now expected the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, to “move in” and invade Ukraine, in an act that would mean large-scale war returning to continental Europe for the first time in a generation. “My guess is he will move in,” Biden said in response to questions about whether an invasion was coming. “He has to do something.” www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/us-embassy-in-ukraine-requests-staff-evacuation-amid-war-fears/ar-AAT2cWl?ocid=msedgntp
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Post by Tim Horton on Jan 23, 2022 4:30:27 GMT 10
it will never recover to pre pandemic levels. --- --- Mate.... This is pretty much a description of the world as a whole.... In some ways starting a couople years ago now.. Even the best of countries with the best of relations that can be rebuilt with even there closest neighbor, like Canada and the US being one step to cross the border close, there will still be undercurrents of division... I have to think it will be this way for many years, like at least one generation or more to come..
For instance.... Yet today we are still learning small bits of truth from 1914-18, and 1939-45 times.. Will it take that long to get all the truths about these last couple years ??
I need more coffee...
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Post by norseman on Jan 24, 2022 11:42:28 GMT 10
US Gov message to all US Citizens:- Whole World now going to shit cease travel get home fast!
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Post by frostbite on Jan 24, 2022 12:36:25 GMT 10
Only problem is the US is going downhill just as fast, if not faster, than many other countries.
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