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Post by Stealth on Dec 31, 2022 20:57:20 GMT 10
I see food production problems increasing and the cost of food spiraling higher. I see more and more "safety" rules being applied to us all. I see homelessness (caused by investors buying up too many properties and not renting them in the belief that owning houses for capital gains and tax perks alone couldn't possibly create harm) becoming a rising issue that the Official Narrative will try to suppress the heck out of. The suppression of the issue and lack of change to the policy settings that drive it will create increasing social unrest and crime. Squatting will be on the rise. By the end of the year the property investors will realise that they have a problem with squatters taking over their stuff. This. Food insecurity and homelessness will be problems this year. They already have been, but we'll see more dissatisfaction from the dwindling middle class. 'No one' cares about the lower class or already homeless so they don't report it as much but as soon as it becomes common for the middle class that's left to start missing out you can be sure MSM will start reporting it more. More news about community gardens and curb-side initiatives for food growth. Victory gardens will be in vogue again not for quaint appeal or hobby but necessity. Housing. Always housing. We'll hear more of tiny houses, cabin/caravan life, and down-sizing from the younger generations who can no longer afford rent and can't save for a mortgage. More multi-generational homes. More young families with children moving back home with parents. Not to save, but because just getting buy will cost everything they earn. I see the rising cost of fuel and electricity/gas putting an even larger dent in the average pocket book. I expect to see reports of higher rates of the elderly/disadvantaged dying from the cold in the middle of winter as their pensions haven't raised but the cost of living has. Can't turn the heat on if you can't pay for it. Particularly the elderly are less inclined to realise quite how cold they are as quickly as a younger person. They're also often less mobile so not inclined to be up and about as much to keep the warmth of faster blood flow going from movement. They're at higher risk of 'slipping away quietly' because they've been very cold for a long period of time without realising it and simply having all of their functions depressed enough to simply stop. I agree that there's money to be made for the savvy. I predict that the US dollar will tank and take a lot of commodities with it. Precious metals have hit their 8 year cycle low a bit early so while I don't think it'll happen this year I'm expecting to see the prices for both silver and gold to start climbing up. I'm not expecting a bubble phase until 2024 however. That being said, good time to get in. Close to the bottom floor at the moment IMO. And finally I see a large scale conflict that we're directly involved in within the next five years. That's not a 2023 prediction, but the yanks have just effectively declared the "War on Terror" as officially ended by releasing their National Defense Service Medal for the War on Terrorism for the period 2001 to 2022. The WoT is over boiz, we did it 🙄😑😂. Anyway, time frame wise for their gong hand out and I suspect that by 2027 we'll be watching warheads on foreheads in one direction or other. At least we have some kind of workable metric *snort*.
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Post by Stealth on Dec 31, 2022 21:00:22 GMT 10
Cool, my empty four bedrooms will be filled with hot blonde Vietnamese backpackers. But honey, it's the law. Plot twist, they're all dudes and they don't do dishes cause it'll make their hands wrinkly 😂. Actually, I'd sling a few sinks for some hot Vietnamese dudes, can I rent a room? I'll pay in freeze dried MREs *chortle*
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Post by Joey on Dec 31, 2022 21:11:54 GMT 10
And finally I see a large scale conflict that we're directly involved in within the next five years. That's not a 2023 prediction, but the yanks have just effectively declared the "War on Terror" as officially ended by releasing their National Defense Service Medal for the War on Terrorism for the period 2001 to 2022. The WoT is over boiz, we did it 🙄😑😂. Anyway, time frame wise for their gong hand out and I suspect that by 2027 we'll be watching warheads on foreheads in one direction or other. At least we have some kind of workable metric *snort*. From what I've read in defence news, the army and SAS has already changed its training plans and packages away from terrorism aimed back to traditional and tropical warfare (prob getting the ball rolling for the pacific war 2.0)
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Post by spatial on Jan 1, 2023 8:10:14 GMT 10
And finally I see a large scale conflict that we're directly involved in within the next five years. That's not a 2023 prediction, but the yanks have just effectively declared the "War on Terror" as officially ended by releasing their National Defense Service Medal for the War on Terrorism for the period 2001 to 2022. The WoT is over boiz, we did it 🙄😑😂. Anyway, time frame wise for their gong hand out and I suspect that by 2027 we'll be watching warheads on foreheads in one direction or other. At least we have some kind of workable metric *snort*. From what I've read in defence news, the army and SAS has already changed its training plans and packages away from terrorism aimed back to traditional and tropical warfare (prob getting the ball rolling for the pacific war 2.0) Economic Prism: Blog site: Predicting hot Asian war.. Xi voted in for life, one of first statements need to unify with Taiwan, Massive military build-up and violation of Taiwan sea and air space. Christmas day say 71 fighter jests with 47 breaching Taiwan's air space. Similar playbook like Russia prior to invading Ukraine. One Great Big Nasty Prediction for 2023"With all modesty, and full acknowledgement of the limitations of abstract thinking, that’s our one great big nasty prediction for the New Year. Expect the unexpected. China will invade Taiwan.
This will put a torch to all other predictions for 2023."economicprism.com/one-great-big-nasty-prediction-for-2023/
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Post by norseman on Jan 1, 2023 8:41:59 GMT 10
I see food production problems increasing and the cost of food spiraling higher. I see more and more "safety" rules being applied to us all. I see homelessness (caused by investors buying up too many properties and not renting them in the belief that owning houses for capital gains and tax perks alone couldn't possibly create harm) becoming a rising issue that the Official Narrative will try to suppress the heck out of. The suppression of the issue and lack of change to the policy settings that drive it will create increasing social unrest and crime. Squatting will be on the rise. By the end of the year the property investors will realise that they have a problem with squatters taking over their stuff. This. Food insecurity and homelessness will be problems this year. They already have been, but we'll see more dissatisfaction from the dwindling middle class. 'No one' cares about the lower class or already homeless so they don't report it as much but as soon as it becomes common for the middle class that's left to start missing out you can be sure MSM will start reporting it more. More news about community gardens and curb-side initiatives for food growth. Victory gardens will be in vogue again not for quaint appeal or hobby but necessity. Housing. Always housing. We'll hear more of tiny houses, cabin/caravan life, and down-sizing from the younger generations who can no longer afford rent and can't save for a mortgage. More multi-generational homes. More young families with children moving back home with parents. Not to save, but because just getting buy will cost everything they earn. I see the rising cost of fuel and electricity/gas putting an even larger dent in the average pocket book. I expect to see reports of higher rates of the elderly/disadvantaged dying from the cold in the middle of winter as their pensions haven't raised but the cost of living has. Can't turn the heat on if you can't pay for it. Particularly the elderly are less inclined to realise quite how cold they are as quickly as a younger person. They're also often less mobile so not inclined to be up and about as much to keep the warmth of faster blood flow going from movement. They're at higher risk of 'slipping away quietly' because they've been very cold for a long period of time without realising it and simply having all of their functions depressed enough to simply stop. I agree that there's money to be made for the savvy. I predict that the US dollar will tank and take a lot of commodities with it. Precious metals have hit their 8 year cycle low a bit early so while I don't think it'll happen this year I'm expecting to see the prices for both silver and gold to start climbing up. I'm not expecting a bubble phase until 2024 however. That being said, good time to get in. Close to the bottom floor at the moment IMO. And finally I see a large scale conflict that we're directly involved in within the next five years. That's not a 2023 prediction, but the yanks have just effectively declared the "War on Terror" as officially ended by releasing their National Defense Service Medal for the War on Terrorism for the period 2001 to 2022. The WoT is over boiz, we did it 🙄😑😂. Anyway, time frame wise for their gong hand out and I suspect that by 2027 we'll be watching warheads on foreheads in one direction or other. At least we have some kind of workable metric *snort*. Stealth That's an awesome post you created there! As far as I'm concerned there is no going back to the "good ole days", they're well and truly gone and only idiots will refuse to recognise it. Accelerating degeneration is our future and the best equipped survivors will be the ones who've recognised it early and are continuing to prep for it right now! As a serious pessimist (their label not mine, I prefer realist) I'm so faarking glad when Y2K was a "thing" I accelerated my plans for an alternative / more survivable / sustainable lifestyle! Back in the day I was laughed at and ridiculed but always thought someday I would be vindicated and it's all here right now! Maybe it's my ego but I'll tell you nothing satisfies me more than having my kids, family members, "friends" and other assorted associates come to me and say you were right all along mate, what should we do now?
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Post by spinifex on Jan 2, 2023 9:41:23 GMT 10
I can't get my head around how messed up real estate markets are these days. Maybe things are more rational in the Eastern States but in SA its like this:
1. A 2 acre rural property in the Riverland area of SA lists for 325K ... my partner puts an offer for 335k on it the day after it lists as the agent says theres been several offeres made already and its gobe above asking price. A few weeks later we find that property sold to the highest offer for $350k.
2. A similar style of property in that region lists for 345k ... my partner offers 370k ... it sells for some amount above that.
3. A 12 acre property lists for 315k ... partner puts an offer of 350k ... finally she hits the top of the leaderboard and offer accepted. We meet the owners and have a look over the place and its riddled with truly dismal DIY renovations. The fruit trees are mostly very neglected and would take a LOT of work to bring back to full production. We decline to proceed to a contract. BUT ... it sells to the next highest offer ... $345k
The Agents we are dealing with don't understand why the property market is in rural areas is so vigorous either ... they've never seen it like this before.
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Post by malewithatail on Jan 2, 2023 11:02:24 GMT 10
"and say you were right all along mate, what should we do now? "
Panic, no no, better still, blind panic, as that's whats coming.
"The Agents we are dealing with don't understand why the property market is in rural areas is so vigorous either ... they've never seen it like this before."
spinifex, pull your finger out mate.
I think its too late to find somewhere, move, set up and be ready. My spirit is extremely disturbed, nothing new some might say, but somethings coming. War, economic or societal collapse ? Don't know.
Its gone insane over here as well, 40 acres with no water, no trees, ex farming block, $380K, no house, nothing. The chap whats bought it carts water from the river in IBC tubs on a trailer every few days, whilst living in a caravan with his family. Still, something is better than being stuck in suburbia when the balloon goes up.
I'm not keeping track of Mike Adams, and the other doomsday merchants of death, etc, as they are just scare mongering. I need to have a clear mind to discern Gods leading.
By the way, if u don't want to get sick, keep bees. The stings u get keep your immune system tuned up and prevent infections. Believe it or not, but she who must be obeyed has the lurgy for a few days, none of us jabbed. Kids with snuffly snozses, me, bright eyed and bushy tailed.
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Post by frostbite on Jan 2, 2023 18:28:25 GMT 10
I can't get my head around how messed up real estate markets are these days. Maybe things are more rational in the Eastern States but in SA its like this: 1. A 2 acre rural property in the Riverland area of SA lists for 325K ... my partner puts an offer for 335k on it the day after it lists as the agent says theres been several offeres made already and its gobe above asking price. A few weeks later we find that property sold to the highest offer for $350k. 2. A similar style of property in that region lists for 345k ... my partner offers 370k ... it sells for some amount above that. 3. A 12 acre property lists for 315k ... partner puts an offer of 350k ... finally she hits the top of the leaderboard and offer accepted. We meet the owners and have a look over the place and its riddled with truly dismal DIY renovations. The fruit trees are mostly very neglected and would take a LOT of work to bring back to full production. We decline to proceed to a contract. BUT ... it sells to the next highest offer ... $345k The Agents we are dealing with don't understand why the property market is in rural areas is so vigorous either ... they've never seen it like this before. Messed up? Try the South Coast of NSW for messed up. A 2.8 acre block two blocks over from my coastal retreat is for sale for $900k. No house, no town water, just 3 sheds, one of which has been lined and divided in 3 bedrooms, lounge and kitchen. Laundry is under the verandah. It’ll sell for that too, because a modest house down the road recently sold for 1.4 mil. My block now worth over 750k, and it only cost me 185k about 7 years ago.
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Post by bug on Jan 2, 2023 19:50:52 GMT 10
Stealth's comments about housing are spot on.
The government has already been pushing the message in the media that retirees who don't downsize should be taxed extra for somehow being greedy by staying in their family home. I've even seen articles doing a thinly veiled demonisation of people with the audacity to have a backyard. High density housing is more profitable for the vested interests who make money out of it, so of course that is what is happening to our suburbs.
The immigration numbers have again been increased, to 'make up' for the lower numbers during medical apartheid. It doesn't take a genius to see that the drop in demand for appartments has led to (very successful) lobbying by their owners (wealthy investors, super funds etc) to ensure there are more buyers for them. This also has the effect of driving up regular house prices.
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Post by spinifex on Jan 3, 2023 7:24:46 GMT 10
"The Agents we are dealing with don't understand why the property market is in rural areas is so vigorous either ... they've never seen it like this before." spinifex, pull your finger out mate. I think its too late to find somewhere, move, set up and be ready. My spirit is extremely disturbed, nothing new some might say, but somethings coming. War, economic or societal collapse ? Don't know. It's not too late to find a good rural property that is fully set up and good to go. They're coming up for sale all the time. The issue is the level of frenzy in the buyer market and HOW that is being sustained. Given that the economy in the rural areas I'm talking about is not THAT prosperous. Infact rather the opposite.
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Post by bug on Jan 3, 2023 9:42:32 GMT 10
When the arse inevitably falls out of our debt fuelled economy, those non-income producing farms will be sold back to farmers at a tiny fraction of what the city lawyers bought them for.
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Post by malewithatail on Jan 3, 2023 11:22:29 GMT 10
"It's not too late to find a good rural property that is fully set up and good to go."
True, but at what cost ?
I was referring to reasonable land that can be developed to suit your lifestyle.
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Post by frostbite on Jan 3, 2023 12:56:40 GMT 10
When the arse inevitably falls out of our debt fuelled economy, those non-income producing farms will be sold back to farmers at a tiny fraction of what the city lawyers bought them for. People have been predicting the property bubble to burst for at least 20 years. Still hasn't happened. We get a minor correction once is a while, then the prices continue their climb again. The grubbyment want to double our population, and everyone wants to live near the cities or the coast. Two simple facts that mean the bubble for real estate on the coast or near the cities will never burst. That bubble is making almost everyone I know a millionaire.
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Post by malewithatail on Jan 3, 2023 14:04:12 GMT 10
Those on the coast will have a great view of the tsunami as it rolls over them when the volcanoes go off and trigger global cooling.
That should get some discussions happening !!!
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Post by frostbite on Jan 3, 2023 14:33:38 GMT 10
There’s more chance of a bushfire rolling over your place than a tsunami rolling over mine.
I’d even put serious money on that.
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Post by malewithatail on Jan 3, 2023 14:46:31 GMT 10
I agree, as we are 150 km inland and over 2 mountain ranges. But...a bush-fire is a known threat, and one can prepare for it by clearing growth from around buildings, having sprinklers on all roofs, having your own on farm fire fighting equipment, lots of water, skills to fight it, and that's even before considering the RFS that can help as well.
However, if a Tsunami is rolling in, there is precious little you can do, apart from run, or watch it roll over you, and put your head between your legs and kiss your a..e goodby.
One of the reasons for moving from the coast 20 years ago, was the tsunami threat. Our farm in the Illawarra was 150 meters ASL, almost 500 foot, but the shape of the valley would mean a wave would be amplified as it traveled inland. Also, there were just too many people coming in to the area and it was time to bug out.
Very true re the millionaires on the coast. My mums modest single story house slightly west of Wollongong, is worth over 1.2 million.
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Post by Beno on Jan 3, 2023 15:05:31 GMT 10
I just got an evaluation on my place. more than doubled in value in 3 years. Hope the kids earn more than the minimum wage.
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Post by spinifex on Jan 3, 2023 19:56:46 GMT 10
I just got an evaluation on my place. more than doubled in value in 3 years. Hope the kids earn more than the minimum wage. Sounds great. But what does it really mean? If THAT much cash is sloshing around our economy looking for assets ... hard assets ... that we ALL need to sustain what we have come to expect as a decent quality of life ... when the price tag outstrips the income level of most people in that economy ... what will happen? I've spent a long time studying "valuation" and "pricing" ... and I can tell you all that we are in a situation where the ratio of Average Male Wage to Median Property Price in almost every location is waaaay out of whack. Either wages must rise dramatically to match the housing price or housing prices must drop to match wages. Property as valued in Multiples of wage is unsustainable. The third option is most disturbing ... there is no correction of the ratio and we suffer a modern "Dark Age" where a very wealthy upper class lords it over a very impoverished and exploited general population. My generation will ride it out ... but my kids generation mostly will not ... and their kids will be born into a life of rental servitude.
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Post by Stealth on Jan 3, 2023 22:38:41 GMT 10
The third option is most disturbing ... there is no correction of the ratio and we suffer a modern "Dark Age" where a very wealthy upper class lords it over a very impoverished and exploited general population. My generation will ride it out ... but my kids generation mostly will not ... and their kids will be born into a life of rental servitude. That's absolutely what terrifies me for my kids and the main driver of why we're trying to buy a decent sized rural property rather than just a standard suburban house. Sure, we can grow more food on more land and be more self-sufficient and that's definitely a part of the reason we want to do it. But I have an existential dread that my kids won't ever be able to afford to buy their own homes. What happens when there's no rentals of decent price available and they don't have anywhere to go? Well they come home to mum and dad of course. We plan to have a decently sized house and not downgrade until our kids have bought their own homes and are relatively secure. That way if ever needed they and their families will have somewhere to go. It would be nice to have the space to invite all of our direct family to stay with us if SHTF but the reality is that we have to be responsible for our spawnlings first and foremost. If that means we have to save $100k to whack a cheap shed conversion for each of them on our property just in case rather than $100k into preps for our larger family then so be it. Some day soon we'll have to have a real conversation about who we'd be willing to support beyond our own kids because the land that we do buy will only be able to support so many.
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Post by frostbite on Jan 4, 2023 4:06:49 GMT 10
Fourth option Spinifex, which is already happening here and in NZ.
Wealthy foreigners keep the housing prices inflated. Most of the purchasers where I work are Chinese. Suits the federal grubbyment’s agenda to use immigration to fuel population growth, and suits the State grubbyment’s plan to keep prices inflated to sustain elevated sales tax revenue.
Capital flight from China to Aus is causing 3 bedroom dumps to sell for multi million dollars. Our kids or grandkids have no hope, that’s why my 4yo grandson already has his own place in Canberra, being paid off by a tenant.
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