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Post by Big Ted on Aug 19, 2014 0:40:26 GMT 10
im most certainly not pro-terrorism as so so quaintly put it, but im certainly pro human rights. Only when it's Muslims at the receiving end of retaliation it seems. I have Not seen One post from you about the Brutal Killing of Christians by ISIS Muslims in Iraq and Syria and even Jordan now. Not one. At this point in time the amount of Christians Beheaded, Crucified, Shot, raped burned etc etc is enough to start throwing around the word Genocide in a Serious manner. Thousands upon Thousands have been Slayed by these some 10,000 Evil Muslims and yet Nothing from you about this. Nor have I seen a post from you displaying disgust at the amount of Rockets fired at Israel prior to Israel actually Defending itself against Terrorist attacks. I Seriously am so confused at how an individual can come to being a supporter of Palestine and Hamas unless the person is actually a Muslim themselves and follows the book of death blindly as they all do. Are you aware that the IDF actually send flyers and get on loud speakers warning Civilians of intended Targets to be engaged by them? Are you also aware that Every single Cease Fire has been broken by Palestinians? I pray that the War is over soon and that Israel completely neutralise the Muslim terrorist group Hamas for good.
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Post by Big Ted on Aug 19, 2014 0:44:32 GMT 10
If someone was firing upon you, you wouldn't try to defend yourself? Seriously? This is Exactly what Israel has done and that is it. They did not respond for Days on end whilst getting Hundreds of HE Rockets dropped on them. Imagine what Australias response would be if we were attacked in this way. Even better....Imagine what USA's response would be to being attacked with HE Rockets. There would be no delay in a hostile response I assure you of that.
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Post by Big Ted on Aug 19, 2014 0:45:25 GMT 10
Yes I find some of the points he raised interesting especially the typical tactics of the main stream media coverage. Fair enough.
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Post by arklatex on Aug 19, 2014 1:09:42 GMT 10
The IDF has actually gone a step farther than that Baney. They actually call the residents of buildings they are about to destroy on the phone to warn them. Even after that they use a tactic called "knock on the roof" where they drop a warning shell several minutes before the real strike happens.
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Post by arklatex on Aug 19, 2014 1:10:40 GMT 10
What more can they do to reduce civilian casualties? The palestinians are lucky to get any warning.
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Post by Nighthawk on Aug 19, 2014 1:21:31 GMT 10
And there are videos circulating of Hamas troops driving round the streets of Gaza beating people who try to leave their homes when the IDF give their warnings, and forcing them to return to a home that they know is a target for a military strike. Then they cry foul when these same civilians are killed.
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Post by scubasteve on Aug 19, 2014 2:00:19 GMT 10
I'm a little confused but I'm not sure if you classify all Muslims the same. As you may know Muslims & Christians were living peacefully in Syria long before the extremist moved in. If all Muslims wanted to kill Christians then how were the 10-15% of the population who are Christians able to live peacefully in Syria, a predominant Muslim country? It's not Muslims killing Christians, it's extremists killing people including Christians and Muslims.
Funny how the main stream media is only now covering ISIS were in Syria, but only after they were a problem for the west when they moved into IRAQ. When they were in Syria it was "we must support the rebels" and "we must go to war with Syria" to protect the people from the evil government. There was never any talk of terriosts or ISIS in Syria. Saudi Arabia even offered to fund it. Russia steps in and negotiates for Syria to hand over chemical weapons ... Oh look a peaceful "resolution" and no need to raid another country. Sorry guys. Better luck next time. There was certainly no coverage of ISIS back then even though their evil work was all over YouTube including beheadings. And there is still little to no coverage of ISIS in Syria now including any advances the Syrian army is making on the enemy. Hmmm, I wonder when ISIS magically appeared in Syria?
Anyway I'm getting off topic.
I guess they didn't get the memo that they were about to strike 3 x ambulances, reporters, camercrew, civilians and by the looks of it no one armed that I can see from the footage. Are well mistakes happen. Only human lives. Who cares anyway it's not affecting us. Besides everything Israel does is 100% right and should never be questioned. In fact don't question anything ever. And if anyone has a difference of opinion, attack them and make sure they know they're wrong.
Peace out.
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Post by wolfstar on Aug 19, 2014 6:42:38 GMT 10
im most certainly not pro-terrorism as so so quaintly put it, but im certainly pro human rights. Only when it's Muslims at the receiving end of retaliation it seems. I have Not seen One post from you about the Brutal Killing of Christians by ISIS Muslims in Iraq and Syria and even Jordan now. Not one. At this point in time the amount of Christians Beheaded, Crucified, Shot, raped burned etc etc is enough to start throwing around the word Genocide in a Serious manner. Thousands upon Thousands have been Slayed by these some 10,000 Evil Muslims and yet Nothing from you about this. Nor have I seen a post from you displaying disgust at the amount of Rockets fired at Israel prior to Israel actually Defending itself against Terrorist attacks. I Seriously am so confused at how an individual can come to being a supporter of Palestine and Hamas unless the person is actually a Muslim themselves and follows the book of death blindly as they all do. Are you aware that the IDF actually send flyers and get on loud speakers warning Civilians of intended Targets to be engaged by them? Are you also aware that Every single Cease Fire has been broken by Palestinians? I pray that the War is over soon and that Israel completely neutralise the Muslim terrorist group Hamas for good. no because our media is covering that pretty well. I just saw something in my travels that I thought was worth showing. Funny how you expect me to make it a full time profession finding media that is supportive of you pov. Fwiw it's called dehumanization. It's a war tactic as old as war itself. Show your enemy as little more than animals, so you can justify treating them like crap. Then if they retaliate, oh no they instigated it, we MUST defend ourselves. In case you're wondering, it's exactly the same as what happened in warsaw, and Germany. That's why the media only shows what is convenient for our governments agenda. To ensure that all Muslims are painted with the same brush, so we have no problem with our military behaving little better then invading nazis. It was also used by the Romans when conquering Europe and the middle east. And by China when trying to wipe out Mongolia, and then Tibet. That fueled misinformation and propaganda in Japan also. Germany told the emperor that America was coming to kill their men, rape and enslave their women and children. What's that? You've heard the same every time people bring up Muslims wanting to run the world? How curious. Yet they were savages for trying to defend themselves from a perceived threat to their citizens? (And don't start on the war crimes, both sides were as brutal and sick as the other, but whoever wins the war is never held accountable) What if gaza was full of Jews or Christians? It would be a whole different situation. Suddenly the oppressors would be monsters in the media and to the public. Suddenly resistance would be justified and applauded.
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Post by wolfstar on Aug 19, 2014 6:46:11 GMT 10
And fwiw, attacking ambulances is about as horrific a war crime as attacking hospitals and child care facilities and orphanages. Oh wait but Israel has been doing that too. And using phosphorous in those attacks no less. I've seen things from gaza that would scar you for life. Babies and children burned to death, little more than charred remains in their cots. But I'm sure that's fine because they're Brown and not Christian or Jewish huh.
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Post by Ammo9 on Aug 19, 2014 7:08:24 GMT 10
UN has asked Hamas to stop using its schools and the hospitals for military purposes. Hamas chooses where Israel must target.
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Post by arklatex on Aug 19, 2014 7:42:46 GMT 10
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Post by wolfstar on Aug 19, 2014 8:40:20 GMT 10
The UN is also seeking to investigate Israels war crimes. You know the single country opposed? AMERICA.
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Post by Ammo9 on Aug 19, 2014 14:50:40 GMT 10
EDIT: I posted this "Do the current actions of Hamas or IS lead you to believe that they are being honest in their claims?" After reading the first few lines which included "a person living in a region overrun by Muslim conquest who was accorded a protected status and allowed to retain his original faith". However after further reading into it, it seems like this is where the Nazi's got their idea for marking Jewish people who still managed to remain in the community.
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Post by Ammo9 on Aug 19, 2014 14:53:37 GMT 10
The UN is also seeking to investigate Israels war crimes. You know the single country opposed? AMERICA. The UN has no real power, to help or hinder anyone. Hence I don't bother keeping up with their investigations, but if you're telling me the only country opposing an investigation into warcrimes is the USA, then that means that Israel does not oppose an investigation and I guess that's the one that means more in this situation.
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Post by arklatex on Aug 19, 2014 15:46:39 GMT 10
I thought the same thing templar. Wolf may find particular interest in their historical treatment of Buddhist people. Death or conversion. Please don't kid yourself about the core values of islam.
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Post by wolfstar on Aug 19, 2014 17:57:40 GMT 10
last i checked you dont get to argue aginst being investigated (because who wouldnt?)ie, they didnt get a vote.
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Post by You Must Enter A Name on Aug 19, 2014 19:10:29 GMT 10
Edited as no longer relevant.
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