shinester
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Post by shinester on Dec 23, 2015 1:57:19 GMT 10
I'm fairly squared away in lots of ways in regards to prepping, food, water, security... you can always do more of course. That's all fine so long as I stay here or move a good deal of what I have if I have to move. Sure I have 5 BOL's, and have plans on when/what circumstances I might head there but none of them are stocked, my BOBs have a weeks worth of food. They all have water sources. So what do I do if I had to get to those locations? I consider this a good reminder at least to myself and I thought I'd share the idea that having some caches and stores and BOLs which might even be a friends house with a nearby cache of food. It's looking like this will be one of the priorities next year.
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Post by Fractus on Dec 24, 2015 10:29:19 GMT 10
It was a basic reminder and something about his presentation made me think about alternates for my own wat. I was happy with my setup until now. So a few small details to attend to so I have reliable back ups. For instance api have been using my siphon hoses for fuel movement. I am going to get more and label them with aluminium garden tags. Have a good festive season
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shinester
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Post by shinester on Dec 25, 2015 10:18:12 GMT 10
Indeed.
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Post by graynomad on Dec 25, 2015 14:23:02 GMT 10
I like Pastor Joe's videos, no BS unlike many of them.
Yes a network of people would be great, very difficult to organise though. Many of us have a plan A which is to either bug out to a prepared BOL or actually already be living there. What we may not have (certainly I don't at this point) is a good plan B, C etc. What happens if the BOL is overrun for example?
I think one good way to do it is have an arrangement with others of a similar level of preparedness, along the lines of "if it turns to crap at my place I'll bug out to yours". This of course would be a reciprocal arrangement and you may store stuff at each other's place as well.
Another way with more asymmetrical prepping levels is to say "You store stuff here in a container pre SHTF and when/if it gets bad you come out here". That way the townie with no land can spend time at the bushie's place pre SHTF for training etc, maybe even buy a container, drop it on the land and fill it with baked beans. Then when appropriate the townie bugs out to the land and sets up camp. In return the land owner gets a few bodies to help with the chores and security etc.
Naturally in either case you need to get to know the people before SHTF, especially in the asymmetrical arrangement as the land owner might decide to just keep the goodies and refuse entry or conversely the townie might bring all his workmates and extended family when that wasn't in the plan. A high level of trust is required.
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shinester
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Post by shinester on Dec 26, 2015 18:34:35 GMT 10
For sure, religious content or not, I also find pastor Joe's vids excellent. I also like the reality frame he holds, that is as you say, no BS. I'm crazily thinking I might just put a small shack together hidden in the bush, to which there's plenty nearby. It's crazy for many reasons, it could be found after all it'll be on public land lol, it could be knocked down, it could fall down, I'd have to lug in much of the material by hand to a certain extent. Having said that, some of that could be mitigated by being careful about where I put it and keeping ability to access [and tracks] to a minimum. There's the idea of using a shed, ... or using free pallets. Both have positives and negatives, the shed being quick and easier to transport. The pallets being cheaper, longer to construct and the worst part, moving them by hand would be pretty slow. $389 at Bunnings. Comes in 2 boxes, I could probably carry them with the Alice Pack I have [which was made for being able to carry objects] though it might be tricky maneuvering. I can't imagine that weight will be a major issue at least with one box at a time. I think I'll scout around for a suitable location [using google earth to start with] and then get on the ground in the next couple of weeks and see if I can find a good spot, would be good to have another BOL to pitch a tent and bury some supplies there anyhow, so either way's a win. Any suggestions for foundations for such a shed would be welcomed, currently I'm thinking it's just going to be dirt or I'll lug in some treated pine and build a frame.
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Post by graynomad on Dec 28, 2015 23:42:35 GMT 10
If you have access to water you could lug in some premix concrete. Would be a few more trips but doable.
That said a compacted dirt floor is OK, they are quite good after a while and maybe there's a way to seal it.
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Post by Peter on Dec 28, 2015 23:47:05 GMT 10
Just avoid Rapid Set concrete like the plague. It expands over time.
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