remnantprep
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Post by remnantprep on Jun 22, 2017 12:50:19 GMT 10
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Post by fei on Jun 29, 2017 21:29:15 GMT 10
I think the Middle East is perennially on the brink of war, whether domestic (ie. Yemen and Syria now) or international (Iran vs Saudi).
I met an Iranian guy a few years back at my local pub. He wasn't drinking of course, but was happy to talk about Iran and how its not how the West likes to portray it (especially how the younger generation think). Then met a couple of Yemeni and Saudi guys last year. I mentioned I knew a few muslims, including an Iranian. They were quick to bad mouth the Iranian and basically told me off for mentioning Iran and islam in the same sentence.
The interesting thing will be when Saudi oil really starts running out. If the Saudis don't start getting new industries in place, as well as get all the blood sucking royal princes and hangers-on under control, the economy will probably tank pretty quickly and eventually lead to a general revolt against the royals.
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Post by spatial on Jun 29, 2017 22:23:02 GMT 10
Saudi has good oil reserve and high quality but the cost of extraction is expensive, Saudi is currently going broke at the current low oil prices, and have had to sell bonds and shares in their oil business to prevent the country from collapse. Iran with sanctions taken off are now producing an ever increasing amount of oil, Qatar is producing a lot of natural gas, the US have increased oil shale production so they are all at the thin edge of the wedge or stading on the cliff edge teetering on the abyss.
Yeah it is all coming to a head - and not long and both the economy and wars will start all over the world.
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Post by fei on Jun 29, 2017 23:16:39 GMT 10
This is one of the reasons I believe the government in Aus (don't care which party) should be putting a lot of money into both building up fuel reserves (which are pitifully low and not meeting international expectations), meanwhile also trying to electrify the transportation networks. With the economy close to recession, oil prices low, high unemployment, low resource prices etc, it makes sense to build up vital infrastructure now while the resources are freely at hand and for a lower cost.
Of course, this isn't being done. Instead the government wants to focus on gay marriage and putting the blame for everything on the other parties.
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Post by remnantprep on Jun 30, 2017 8:26:43 GMT 10
Australia will surpass Qatar soon in Gas production!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2017 10:32:09 GMT 10
What a lot of us from christian countries don't understand is the factions within the Muslim religion, from my understanding there are two main factions within the Islamic faith Sunni and Shiite......similar to Catholics and Protestants in our society. The Shitte Islams are less radical and more likely to be in power while the Sunni Islams tend to be more hard line Muslims, and gave forth the splinter faction of ISIS. Both sides hate each other with vengeance and it is the Sunni Muslims who make up most of the refugees fleeing Shiite rule. This fighting has been going on for hundreds of years, the only thing that has changed is they can finance their fights better now with oil money. What we in the west seem to forget in our haste to get oil, is that both side hate each other..... but one thing they hate more is Christians.
Then we have the Palestinian, Jewish conflict which can never be resolved without making one side a total looser to the other, for both sides will fight till their last breath to get what they have been indoctrinated to believe belongs to them.
Oil will not run out, it just gets more expensive to extract, and the OPEC nations are worried that the world will move away from needing oil and they will be left with a worthless resource. Of course if we do ween ourselves off oil once the middle east money will dry up and they will be back to the time old throwing rocks at each other, with no body taking any notice so part of it, so the current game is positioning themselves for that time. If there is a flair up in the middle east, it it is likely to be fueled by the west wanting to assist their side to position itself to secure oil supplies. But my biggest concern is that if the Sunni's will not live under Shiite rule what makes anyone thing they will ever be happy living under Christian rule as resettled refugees?
While I may paint one side of the Islamic faith differently to the other and view it at arms length, it is important we remember these conflicts effect real people and they are having their live destroyed and their children and family members killed, so regardless of their religious conviction we must be human above all else and have compassion.
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Post by graynomad on Jul 4, 2017 18:28:39 GMT 10
Far from reaching peak oil as predicted a few years ago last I heard we actually have reached "peak demand" as every man and his dog gets oil out of the ground these days.
If so then good, they can go back to their camels and tents 'cause nobody will give a toss about those countries if we don't need their oil.
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Post by fei on Jul 5, 2017 16:28:05 GMT 10
Far from reaching peak oil as predicted a few years ago last I heard we actually have reached "peak demand" as every man and his dog gets oil out of the ground these days. If so then good, they can go back to their camels and tents 'cause nobody will give a toss about those countries if we don't need their oil. Yep, when the demand for oil is gone (although commercial transport and petrochemical stock will keep demand up for a long time to come), no-one not in the region will give a rat's arse what happens in the ME. So, back to my favourite topics of needing to implement localised / locally fueled / renewable energy, plus electrify the transportation system as quickly as possible.
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