remnantprep
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Post by remnantprep on Feb 3, 2014 15:49:52 GMT 10
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Post by pheniox17 on Feb 3, 2014 16:11:17 GMT 10
ABOUT TIME we have been funding billion dollar corporations to "stay in Australia"
can you apply for a million dollar hand out if your business is struggling... even cash given to farmers has to be paid back...
so why should I fund Holden, ford, spc, or any other "struggling" big business... should the government start handing money to banks because of a "lower than expected profit gain"....
it's probably the only good thing this government dose
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2014 16:47:12 GMT 10
This is the Start of the End of Things!!!
For anyone who is prepping...Multiply your efforts x 100!!!
For those people not prepping and who rely on Society as it stands today!!
Well....Your Just Shit! Out Of Luck!... So like the Stewardess said to the people on the plane just before it crashed! "Put your seat in the upright position and Put Your head between your legs, and Kiss your Ass goodbye"
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Post by pheniox17 on Feb 3, 2014 17:32:00 GMT 10
nea doc, this one is just cutting off big business from your tax money
the budget release is the very scary one, but on one hand Australia is in massive debt, on the other our government wants to pull us out of debt... who will loose??? remember rudds $800 little pay out, now we're paying it back with lone shark interest...
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Post by SA Hunter on Feb 3, 2014 18:22:35 GMT 10
Agreed Pheniox17 - we can't continue to bail out everyone everytime they fall on hard times - Yes, it IS sad to see some of these big businesses fall, and a LOT of people suffer, but, is it really up to the tax payers to prop up a failing business for a few years longer??
Re SPC, they are owned by Coca Cola - I bet the parent company made enough profit worldwide to inject $25 million into this factory. I'm all for supporting our Aussie industries, but should I have to buy a tin of food for $2, then have to contribute another $2 to allow me to buy the tin for $2??? (make sense???)
I think the govt needs to make some harsh decisions, and prioritize what needs to be done. Unfortunately we have become a society who expect a hand out from the govt any and every time something happens. It just seems sensible policy for the govt to say, "Hey, no more handouts, and manage your lives on your own". Sounds harsh, but, the less interference I have from the govt the better.
Get ready for all the bleeding hearts now, oh no money for food, rent, electricity, etc. Well, if you spend your money on drugs, smokes, booze, gambling, then I have no sympathy. If you are down on your luck and not blowing your cash on vices, then I have no issues helping these people at all.
I do agree with what Gaz says, it will get harder, the next budget will bite, and bite hard, so we do need to multiply our efforts. And, the more we can become self sufficient, the less we will need to take from the govt, and the more they can help those in genuine need.
Just my 2 bobs worth!
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Post by wolfstar on Feb 3, 2014 22:52:08 GMT 10
we are starting to sink into the same sheethole america is, all the manufacturing jobs being moves overseas, we stop making money, fall further into debt because the people arent making enough revenue to pay as much ta, less purchasing means less gst, less ppl affording cars means less roads taxes, so income taxes will rise, medicare will be dropped.... you mark my words, when centrelink and medicare are scrapped because we can no longer afford it, the s WILL htf. ppl will resort to crime to feed their families. and i know for one i wont be sticking around to cop the sharp end of that stick.
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Post by pheniox17 on Feb 3, 2014 23:42:53 GMT 10
well since this is starting to drift off topic
first big protest change will be a rise in GST from 10% on most goods to 15% on all goods
minimal wage will rise to "soften" the deal
income tax will stay the same (to soften the deal) but you will pay more tax due to wage rise
the next hit, Medicare will become income restricted, to a yearly amount available per yea per person, (will be made complex as f..k)
then centerlink, the dole will stay the same, the pension systems (disability, old age, etc) will be hit hard and turn.to the dole
then government spending, expect cuts to all "non essential services" and border strengthened to "keep focus of how we are being reamed"
unemployment is hard to really track, working more than 8 hours a week and your employed, nearly a million Australians are reported to be unemployed.... got to say something...
when centerlink closes for good, there will be a huge increase in unemployment numbers, and as such crime will sky rocket... if you don't have a gun, by the end of 2015 make sure you own at least one, as once it all collapses, it will be a country wide shtf event.... and it will make the depression look like child's play
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