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Post by Beno on Nov 16, 2022 7:04:44 GMT 10
Just heard that apparently several russian missiles hit polish territory and killed some civilians. This is either the end of the war or an escalation. NATO must act or have egg smeared on their faces. I’d say they might consider sending in holding forces and the the Ukranians keep up the assault without having to worry about holding turf.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 7:34:05 GMT 10
And Russian troops are deserting in droves, surrendering to Ukraine forces. That's what happens when u conscript kids and don't train them properly, issue WW2 rusty rifles and equally suspect ammo.
If the missiles are Russian, and that hasn't been confirmed yet, it marks a escalation of hostilities, possibly leading to NATO officially joining the 'war'.
Like beno says, " NATO must act or have egg smeared on their faces", or worse being seen as a toothless tiger and loosing face with fellow countries. NATO would then fall apart and who knows the outcome of that senerio..
Lets organize this thing and take all the fun out of it.
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Post by rosebud on Nov 16, 2022 7:34:51 GMT 10
I've just heard this, too. Russia is denying it Ha!
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Post by frostbite on Nov 16, 2022 7:44:36 GMT 10
Expect the oil and gas companies and major supermarkets to raise prices and profit from this event. Never miss an opportunity to screw an extra dollar out of the sheep.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 7:56:21 GMT 10
The president of Poland is speaking to US President Joe Biden, security chief says Polish President Andrzej Duda is now talking to his US counterpart Joe Biden, the head of Poland's National Security Bureau, Jacek Siewiera, says.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 7:56:40 GMT 10
Moldova reports power cuts due to Russian strikes on Ukraine Moldova has said it is experiencing electricity outages as a result of Russian strikes on energy infrastructure in neighbouring Ukraine and called on Moscow to stop its attacks. “Every bomb falling on Ukraine is also affecting Moldova and our people. We call on Russia to stop the destruction now,” Foreign Minister Nicu Popescu wrote on Twitter.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 7:57:19 GMT 10
Pentagon ‘looking into’ reports Russian missiles hit inside Poland The Pentagon has said it was unable to corroborate reports that two Russian missiles had landed inside NATO member Poland, but that it was investigating the claims. “We are aware of the press reports alleging that two Russian missiles have struck a location inside Poland or the Ukraine border,” Pentagon spokesma.
Article Five is the collective defence pact in NATO, stating that an attack on any member of the alliance is an attack on all members. n Pat Ryder said, adding that the Pentagon was was “looking into this further
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 7:57:34 GMT 10
Russia denies its missiles struck Polish territory Russia’s defence ministry has denied reports that Russian missiles hit Polish territory, describing them as “a deliberate provocation aimed at escalating the situation”. “No strikes on targets near the Ukrainian-Polish state border were made by Russian means of destruction,” it said in a statement. Wreckage reportedly found at the scene “has nothing to do with Russian weapons”, it added.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 7:57:45 GMT 10
Which countries voted for Russian reparations? The UN passed a resolution calling for Russia to pay reparations to Ukraine for damages caused by the invasion. While Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy celebrated the news and said in his nightly address that reparations are now part of an “international legal reality”, the Kremlin’s spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said Russia was “categorically against” paying compensation.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 7:58:23 GMT 10
Of the UN assembly, 94 members voted in favour, 14 voted against, and 73 abstained.
Western-supplied arms and mercenaries are priority targets: Moscow The secretary of Russia’s Security Council, Nikolai Patrushev, says that Western-supplied arms and foreign mercenaries were priority targets for Russia’s forces fighting in Ukraine, the RIA Novosti news agency reported. “Lethal weapons supplied to Ukraine, as well as foreign mercenaries fighting on the Ukrainian side, are priority targets for the Russian Armed Forces,” Patrushev said in Bryansk at a meeting on security issues in central Russia. oted in favour, 14 voted against, and 73 abstained.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 7:59:20 GMT 10
Australia stands with Ukraine in condemning Russia’s deadly missile attacks. Reports these missiles have also struck Polish territory are deeply concerning. We again call on Russia to withdraw its forces and end its illegal, immoral war.
Now these jerks are involving us in it.
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 7:59:50 GMT 10
Whatever happens, those in command must be totally sure of what actually happened as there will be no going back.
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Post by Stealth on Nov 16, 2022 8:10:24 GMT 10
Interesting timing that there's also been a strike on the Druzhba pipeline which transfers to Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic which has suspended activity because of an attack in Ukraine.
This really does feel like a 'do something or look pointless' situation. They won't want to escalate, but if they don't do something about this it just gives implied permission to have spillover. And spillover is a very convenient excuse to suddenly pour troops into another country.
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Post by Beno on Nov 16, 2022 16:35:37 GMT 10
Biden is already setting the response by saying it is unlikely to be russian missiles. So whos were they? Ukrainian? Hen what?
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Post by malewithatail on Nov 16, 2022 16:49:07 GMT 10
Could be Russian missiles, fired by Ukraine as their air defense system is based on old Russian missiles they bought a while ago. So, yes, they are Russian missiles, but fired by Ukraine in an attempt to intercept the Russian missiles and prevent them from causing more damage.
Friendly fire is the term, or shooting yourself in the foot.
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Post by bushdoc2 on Nov 16, 2022 18:56:24 GMT 10
Could be Russian missiles, fired by Ukraine as their air defense system is based on old Russian missiles they bought a while ago. So, yes, they are Russian missiles, but fired by Ukraine in an attempt to intercept the Russian missiles and prevent them from causing more damage. Friendly fire is the term, or shooting yourself in the foot. Live life to its fullest, have no regrets. Or "false flag".
I'll be back before you can say "floccinaucinihilipification".
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Post by SA Hunter on Nov 16, 2022 20:00:19 GMT 10
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Post by Stealth on Nov 16, 2022 20:25:58 GMT 10
I really REALLY would like to see the tracking on that. It'd be interesting to know if they were shooting down Russian bombs or they were trying to start something. I think that if NATO don't approve Ukraine joining I'd be inclined to believe that it was a proven false flag effort -.-
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Post by norseman on Nov 17, 2022 1:56:13 GMT 10
If those NATO nobs say it was Russia then you definitely know it wasn't Russia! Their propaganda is almost as bad as in Oz!
Yep! Like I just said an hour or two back:-
"NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said on Wednesday that a deadly explosion in Poland was probably the result of Ukrainian anti-aircraft fire, but that Russia bears “ultimate responsibility” since Moscow is behind the war.
Two people were killed in the blast on Tuesday in Poland’s east, near the border with Ukraine, in an incident that fuelled concerns of an escalation.
“An investigation into this incident is ongoing, and we need to await its outcome … But we have no indication that this was the result of a deliberate attack,” Stoltenberg said after chairing a meeting of NATO ambassadors."
This bloke needs to revisit a little history on this one! Like I said propashite that's almost as evil as ours!
What do you think Dr Simon Henry?
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Post by rosebud on Nov 17, 2022 6:34:46 GMT 10
It depends on who is doing the reporting, how many details they know and what their agenda is in revealing these details. Note how more details and points of view are being put forward.
I must admit my first impression when I heard the news, was that Putin was extending his reach.
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