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Post by rastus on May 19, 2022 18:27:46 GMT 10
A reference to the saying "Things move slowly till they don't. Then everything happens all at once".
I won't go into specifics because we are all seeing vastly different news depending on the sources we view, but how is everyone's overall feeling on how quickly things are moving? Do you think we are still in the "slow moving stage", or do you think we have moved into the "all at once" stage?
I lean towards the latter view, but the line between vigilance and paranoia is hard to judge at times... (and quite frankly I would love to be told I am wrong in this).
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Post by frostbite on May 19, 2022 19:12:11 GMT 10
Perhaps I'm an optimist, perhaps my normalcy bias is strong, but I'm not convinced the end is nigh here in Aus.
We are definately seeing higher prices, but there's no widespread great shortage of anything yet (apart from ammunition reloading components).
Malewithatail might not be able to source oil filters and building material locally, but that's just a localised issue resulting from the floods in his area. Those items are in abundance 8hrs south of him.
Petrol might be very expensive, but I'm not seeing a shortage yet. Adblue was said to be in short supply, yet I saw a whole pallet of it sitting unsold at a regional petrol station.
My local supermarket shelves are full of food.
Plenty of overtime still available. Everyone I know who wants a job has one.
And yet despite this, I still have a feeling of unease. Not enough to go full prep retard, but I've been increasing my prepping frequency nonetheless.
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Post by rastus on May 19, 2022 19:30:57 GMT 10
Good points.
I have noticed that the shelves are still stocked as long as long as I am not fussy on brand or type. But as soon as I need a specific item or to order something in, that is where it fails.
With a brick and mortar store it just seems to be "pay and wait forever" game, and courier deliveries have gone to the dog house.
There are a few large purchases for the property I want to make, but have no confidence that a delivery will be made. These are things that normally take months to arrive.
The tradies in my area are available at short notice, but again, getting supplies is hard for them too.
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Post by Joey on May 19, 2022 19:36:59 GMT 10
I'm seeing a lot of things moving slowly at work, with long delays on spare parts and filter kits. I was speaking to the sales manager this morning about our fleet of aging EWP's which a few of them have reached their 15yrs lifespan over the next few months and he advised me that the company has had an order in for $1M worth of EWP's for the last 2yrs and still waiting for them to be delivered.
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Post by spinifex on May 19, 2022 20:30:45 GMT 10
I'm seeing what you're seeing Joey. Long waits and uncertainty on Ag machinery parts and new equipment (wait time is now 24 months for some John Deere equipment. Then theres the problems with sourcing agricultural chemicals and fertilisers. Farmers are getting quite jittery about the problems in their industry.
Ask a builder about timber and gyprock supplies. builders here are pulling their hair out. Sydney and melbourne soaking up most supplies but further out supplies are erratic at best.
Oh ... and the medical industry is clearly rationed to the max now too.
So ... I suspect what we see is our economy atrophying from the edges back towards the big population centres.
Happily ... we'll have adjusted first and be ahead of the pack on adjusting to the new normal.
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Post by spinifex on May 19, 2022 20:33:18 GMT 10
Good points. I have noticed that the shelves are still stocked as long as long as I am not fussy on brand or type. But as soon as I need a specific item or to order something in, that is where it fails. With a brick and mortar store it just seems to be "pay and wait forever" game, and courier deliveries have gone to the dog house. There are a few large purchases for the property I want to make, but have no confidence that a delivery will be made. These are things that normally take months to arrive. The tradies in my area are available at short notice, but again, getting supplies is hard for them too. Are you in a rural location? I reckon the economy, like a woven rug, is unravelling from the geographic edges first ... supplies being provided preferentially to capital cities. We're well along the slide now ...
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Post by johngalt on May 19, 2022 22:15:57 GMT 10
From my perspective here in Perth the staples are available a spudshed and local markets such as Chicken, Beef, vegies, I don't think I will be starving anytime soon but I will have to roll with the seasons and what is available, there may be no celery in summer but it comes back during autumn/winter. I am seeing shortages of toilet paper and processed goods like dishwasher powder, sauces, medicinal things like that. They blame the train derailment but that has been fixed for a while now. It also depends on the shop, Aldi has toilet paper but not much else, Woolworths is hit and miss depending on the location.
Regarding shipping. I have had international shipments arrive from China to Perth in 2 weeks or less using Australia post, however bargain basement eBay sellers using couriers such as Aramex and the like are taking over 4 weeks Syd to Perth all while blaming you the customer or covid like it's something that happened last week and they haven't have nearly 3 years to get used to the virus and restructure their business.
So anything not available locally is a concern right now. That reminds me I should order some more water filters.
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Post by rastus on May 19, 2022 23:34:25 GMT 10
Are you in a rural location? I reckon the economy, like a woven rug, is unravelling from the geographic edges first ... supplies being provided preferentially to capital cities. We're well along the slide now ... Rural yes, but not remote. And a lot of the projects I have on hold are farm infrastructure related.
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Post by Tim Horton on May 21, 2022 1:05:36 GMT 10
I am in the camp somewhat waiting for the next crisis to fall... Supply of most things will be adequate, maybe not abundant, but at a premium price..
Most anything that can be labeled a "disaster" will be local.. Local can take in a lot of area at times in the form of a drought, wild fire, flooding, you name the issue..
There may be other covid like epidemics that cause trouble... Some believing there will be an "epidemic" of one kind or another just before the next US election to turn it into a electronic, internet, mail in election that is more easily manipulated... Also saying if this can be done there, it can be done anywhere..
There seem some far out thoughts out there.. But with the rate things have happened in the last 5-7 years, it seems nothing can be dismissed as impossible..
My 5 cents of opinion..
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Post by spatial on May 21, 2022 11:24:56 GMT 10
I am in the camp somewhat waiting for the next crisis to fall... Supply of most things will be adequate, maybe not abundant, but at a premium price.. Most anything that can be labeled a "disaster" will be local.. Local can take in a lot of area at times in the form of a drought, wild fire, flooding, you name the issue.. There may be other covid like epidemics that cause trouble... Some believing there will be an "epidemic" of one kind or another just before the next US election to turn it into a electronic, internet, mail in election that is more easily manipulated... Also saying if this can be done there, it can be done anywhere.. There seem some far out thoughts out there.. But with the rate things have happened in the last 5-7 years, it seems nothing can be dismissed as impossible.. My 5 cents of opinion.. Monkey Pox is on the go and gone global.... It is in Canada and Down Under....
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Post by dirtdiva on May 21, 2022 12:06:27 GMT 10
I am in the camp somewhat waiting for the next crisis to fall... Supply of most things will be adequate, maybe not abundant, but at a premium price.. Most anything that can be labeled a "disaster" will be local.. Local can take in a lot of area at times in the form of a drought, wild fire, flooding, you name the issue.. There may be other covid like epidemics that cause trouble... Some believing there will be an "epidemic" of one kind or another just before the next US election to turn it into a electronic, internet, mail in election that is more easily manipulated... Also saying if this can be done there, it can be done anywhere.. There seem some far out thoughts out there.. But with the rate things have happened in the last 5-7 years, it seems nothing can be dismissed as impossible.. My 5 cents of opinion.. Monkey Pox is on the go and gone global.... It is in Canada and Down Under.... Saw the first cases reported in the US today also!
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Post by Stealth on May 22, 2022 19:28:35 GMT 10
Israel and Sweden have also confirmed cases today as well.
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Post by spatial on May 22, 2022 21:13:34 GMT 10
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Post by Morgo on May 23, 2022 21:32:10 GMT 10
Apart from the doom and gloom on the news etc things are mostly normal here.
Exceptions being that I've noticed,
Supply issues on some things but mostly industry related. No food or daily essential issues.
Shipping times still a bit hit and miss.
Fuel prices are higher than they used to be, I don't pay for it anyway.
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Post by qlder on May 25, 2022 20:32:27 GMT 10
We have had a massive increase of yank planes training around here. Went to the ANZAC day dawn parade, and they flew an f35 over. Lajumanu has had an airport built to handle any planes the yanks could possibly land. For a community of maybe 500 people. Delamere is currently upgrading the roads from there to Katherine. Something is going on. The flyover was bloody awesome by the way, I was in Kalkarindji, the missus was in Wyndham,and it was the same plane. But kept its distance, unlike other years where they flew right over you.
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Post by Beno on May 25, 2022 22:08:08 GMT 10
I miss the mock dogfights over the country between tindal and delamere. Didn’t know anything was going on a lajumanu, sounds like we are doubling down up there.
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Post by frostbite on May 26, 2022 5:18:38 GMT 10
Doubling up to join the yanks in another war. With the Chinese this time.
I wish some of those billions went into our hospital system instrad.
Hey Bce1, how many doctors and nurses ciuld we employ for the cost of a cancelled French submarine contract?
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Post by rastus on Jun 6, 2022 19:43:44 GMT 10
Victoria is introducing farming amendments to outlaw sharing of game and farm killed meat. Also massive fines for transporting of any amount of weed seeds either to somewhere else or another area on your own property. Ie, a catch all they can get anyone one if they go looking. Also, "authorised officers" can go anywhere on any rural property (cept the dwelling) without court order or reasonable cause. They don't even have to identify themselves. It'll be an 18K fine if you catch one of them walking around on your property and kick 'em off because they didn't identify themselves.... Source: www.legislation.vic.gov.au/bills/Agriculture-Legislation-Amendment-Bill-2022 (the Explanatory Memorandom explains the changes over the old)
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Post by bug on Jun 7, 2022 9:01:03 GMT 10
Victoria is introducing farming amendments to outlaw sharing of game and farm killed meat. Also massive fines for transporting of any amount of weed seeds either to somewhere else or another area on your own property. Ie, a catch all they can get anyone one if they go looking. Also, "authorised officers" can go anywhere on any rural property (cept the dwelling) without court order or reasonable cause. They don't even have to identify themselves. It'll be an 18K fine if you catch one of them walking around on your property and kick 'em off because they didn't identify themselves.... Source: www.legislation.vic.gov.au/bills/Agriculture-Legislation-Amendment-Bill-2022 (the Explanatory Memorandom explains the changes over the old) This is very in-line with the Andrews dictatorship. Next will be 'sorry, your social credit score has fallen too low. cease farming activities immediately.' Ever since Judas Rod Barton joined the three stooges on the upper house cross bench, Victoria has become a one-party state.
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Post by ausprep130 on Jun 8, 2022 13:26:00 GMT 10
Victoria is introducing farming amendments to outlaw sharing of game and farm killed meat. Also massive fines for transporting of any amount of weed seeds either to somewhere else or another area on your own property. Ie, a catch all they can get anyone one if they go looking. Also, "authorised officers" can go anywhere on any rural property (cept the dwelling) without court order or reasonable cause. They don't even have to identify themselves. It'll be an 18K fine if you catch one of them walking around on your property and kick 'em off because they didn't identify themselves.... Source: www.legislation.vic.gov.au/bills/Agriculture-Legislation-Amendment-Bill-2022 (the Explanatory Memorandom explains the changes over the old) I do have some concerns about the way this legislation can be used but I must point out the following; "54 Power to enter and inspect
(1) An authorised officer may at any reasonable time enter and inspect any place, other than a place occupied as a residence, and inspect anything found at that place, if the authorised officer reasonably suspects that— There is a limited list of reasons which are related to agricultural chemical/fertiliser/spraying etc. Not limited to the property where the chemicals are stored, but also properties that may have been sprayed on purpose or inadvertently. 54AC Announcement on entry
(1) Immediately on entering a place, vehicle, vessel or aircraft under this Division, an authorised officer must take all reasonable steps to notify the occupier or apparent occupier of the place, or the driver or person in charge of the vehicle, vessel or aircraft, of the entry and produce the authorised officer's identity card for inspection by that person. They must identify themselves
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