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Post by spatial on Jun 10, 2022 23:31:09 GMT 10
US inflation figures very hot and moving fast. Big cracks are forming in the economy will will suddenly one day implode. Stocks looking like another big down day... Stagflation is here, rising rates while economy's across the globe shrink. Yield curve busy inverting and cryptos getting sold... finance.yahoo.com/news/may-inflation-data-june-10-2022-212834308.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMNzu3onN_IhGgKa098H7IXOP2jXLPpkXfAaY_PTPEMzsKP-xT1fBIiwERgAB34h0YSOO7MXcAOU92UF8LI_NZ8DjxW9JFdqYyfRwmE239N8LOQfeTO9ucNtFAwVt9O24N6ux9LklZv85tM8U6-9Xzb1XpMIndmyLu3frvSTiXNoU.S. consumer prices accelerated in May to the highest since 1981, as Americans grapple with a surge in the cost of gas, food, and shelter, data showed Friday. The Bureau of Labor Statistics' May Consumer Price Index (CPI) showed a year-over-year increase of 8.6% last month, up from 8.3% in April. Economists were expecting an 8.3% increase in May, according to estimates compiled by Bloomberg. On a monthly basis, the broadest measure of inflation climbed 1.0%, compared to 0.3% in April. "Core" inflation, which strips out the more volatile costs of food and gas, rose 6% over the prior year in May, more than the 5.9% that was expected.
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Post by bug on Jun 11, 2022 13:21:42 GMT 10
Never understood cryptos. It reeks of a pyramid scheme where all the early investors have made their money and gotten out. Not sure how an investment is supposed to appreciate when literally anyone can mine their own bitcoin, putting a ceiling on the price, effectively tying it to the cost of computer hardware and electricity.
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Post by malewithatail on Jun 11, 2022 13:54:17 GMT 10
I have a little crypto, a few hundred dollars worth. Just for insurance in case. But as for investing money in it, same as the stock market, its all a coming down folks.
Better to wear out than rust out.
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Post by Stealth on Jun 11, 2022 17:44:34 GMT 10
I don't understand crypto but I also acknowledge that that's through my lack of interest more than anything. I don't have a problem with it as such (apart from us becoming even MORE relaxed and comfortable with a digital currency system, but even that's a bit tin hat for me lol) but I don't really have reason to be motivated to research it as of yet.
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Post by spatial on Jun 11, 2022 18:56:02 GMT 10
Over the last 3 weeks stocks have been following crypto currency's, cryptos go down so do stocks. Cyrtos are high risk and they fall first then the inflated stock market follows.
Big stock smash overnight.. The everything bubble is going down.
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Post by malewithatail on Jun 11, 2022 20:21:27 GMT 10
Agree with you fully, the whole house of cards is comeing down. Its all held in place by nothing, stocks are real, but the value is often inflated or outright fraudulantly reported on to raise the price. The money system is failing, like a slow motion train wreck. Farms and equipment to carry out farming will be the new world. 22 cal ammo will be the new gold standard. The zombie apocolypse is coming when the hungry hourdes will swarm from the cities looking for their next meal. Are you prepped both mentally and with physical items to defend your family and those depending on you? Hpefully if you are out far enough, they will die of starvation before they get to you, but anyone within say 50 km of a major town is probably going to be in trouble. 50 km is a days walk. Add a grid down and a Government that has lost control, to the failure of the phone systems and internet, and its the perfect storm. I suspect the actual collapse will be over in a few weeks from when it starts, and as the hourdes die off, life should get a bit less stressful. Night time patrols of your property will probably have to be carried out for some weeks afterwards though. If a nuke happens, then its all over very quickly, and unless you have other arragements from your vehicle, like a pushbike, or are within walking distance from home, then where you are is where you stay. Ive been thinking about distances from home, like when in town shopping, in terms of being able to walk home at 5 km/ hr. Its quite interesting to find out that home is 20 hours continuous walk from town. I live by the scouts motto of "Be prepared".
Ive lost my mind, it must be backed up around here somewhere.
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Post by spatial on Jun 11, 2022 21:16:41 GMT 10
Agree with you fully, the whole house of cards is comeing down. Its all held in place by nothing, stocks are real, but the value is often inflated or outright fraudulantly reported on to raise the price. The money system is failing, like a slow motion train wreck. Farms and equipment to carry out farming will be the new world. 22 cal ammo will be the new gold standard. The zombie apocolypse is coming when the hungry hourdes will swarm from the cities looking for their next meal. Are you prepped both mentally and with physical items to defend your family and those depending on you? Hpefully if you are out far enough, they will die of starvation before they get to you, but anyone within say 50 km of a major town is probably going to be in trouble. 50 km is a days walk. Add a grid down and a Government that has lost control, to the failure of the phone systems and internet, and its the perfect storm. I suspect the actual collapse will be over in a few weeks from when it starts, and as the hourdes die off, life should get a bit less stressful. Night time patrols of your property will probably have to be carried out for some weeks afterwards though. If a nuke happens, then its all over very quickly, and unless you have other arragements from your vehicle, like a pushbike, or are within walking distance from home, then where you are is where you stay. Ive been thinking about distances from home, like when in town shopping, in terms of being able to walk home at 5 km/ hr. Its quite interesting to find out that home is 20 hours continuous walk from town. I live by the scouts motto of "Be prepared". Ive lost my mind, it must be backed up around here somewhere. It is unravelling fast. The economy will go down and the gov will pacify the masses for a few days. For those awake will see the signs and take the necessary actions not to be stranded far from planned location. EMP nuke is definitely on the cards. Expecting other nations to be hit first, then have to shelter in place.
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Post by tactile on Jun 11, 2022 22:54:05 GMT 10
You guys are like salivating dogs before a feed.
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Post by spatial on Jun 12, 2022 8:16:44 GMT 10
You guys are like salivating dogs before a feed. Every major civilisation has failed catastrophically and caused much upheaval, starvation and death. From the Chinese dynasties, Greeks, Mongols, Ottoman empire, Romans etc.... This time it is more global, large populations, high urbanisation, lowest food security in history, reliance on tech, etc, etc, etc.. It is about being prepared as best we can, knowing what is coming.. Most people live in complete denial and even on the prepper forums people brush off reality, or are unable to comprehend the severity of what is coming. Those in Ukraine were warned all the signs were there, the vast majority of people in the cities that were invaded ran out of food in less than a week...!!! In Australia people get trapped due to flooding and bush fires etc.. within 2 days helicopters have to air lift medication and food.... How much warning due the people need.. The time will soon come when there will be no gov assistance what are they going to do then.. If you understand the biblical refernece the "writing is on the wall", "the fig trees are budding". Most preppers have the manta, "prepare for the worst and expect the best". By now the even best result that could happen is global devastation and starvation at a scale never seen before, the worst is full scale nuclear war which is very likely. Prepping does not need to consume your lifestyle, but one needs a constant ear on the ground and be aware of unfolding global and local situations...
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Post by malewithatail on Jun 12, 2022 9:29:27 GMT 10
You guys are like salivating dogs before a feed. Bring it on, the sooner it starts, the sooner its over and we preppers are not getting any younger.
I've used up all my sick days, I'm calling in dead.
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Post by Stealth on Jun 12, 2022 9:58:48 GMT 10
The thing I've found in the last few years is that constantly being on high alert is exhausting. I have a family. I work full time. I don't even have the energy for general hobbies by the time the weekend comes around unless it's something that I can do from home. Spending time ruminating on exactly how badly the world is going to fall apart is therefore a complete waste of energy.
Is it going to be bad? Hell yes.
Can I change the level of 'badness' by spending time considering and ruminating on it? Absolutely not. Because here's the thing. I can't prepare more than I have. If the world is smoldering pools of slow moving lava, every electrical item is now sentient and my neighbour's toaster is now trying to kill me, and the last thing we have to eat is the family cat, we're at no more disadvantage for our prior preps than if we just go into lockdown and we can't go to the shops for two months because there's literally nothing more that I can achieve than I have with my current time and resources.
Spending time using mental energy to calculate just how short my preps fall for a full world-ending scenario is mental self harm when you can do nothing further to change the situation. What does that achieve? Literally nothing apart from keeping me awake at night. I spend time thinking and planning for things that I can impact.
I know someone who, bless his soul, is a tin hat theorist. Smart man. But he's fallen into a pit of 'following the money' and now every time anything even slightly close to a situation that he can't explain comes up, you can almost feel the blood vessels ready to explode in his head. I've asked him before what he can change about the situation. "Nothing, but that doesn't stop me from being angry about it!". I can't fathom... Why on earth would you do that to yourself?!! Being angry feels awful. It builds up all that energy, but you can't change the situation so you're literally giving your energy to nothing and 'they' don't even know. And if they did, they wouldn't care. So WHY DO THAT to yourself?
I feel the same way about ruminating on stressful situations that I can't change. I can't change it. I can only do the best with what I have that I can and hope that it's enough when the time comes. Otherwise I might as well sit on the couch with zero preps and be fat dumb and happy like the rest of the folks that do the same.
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Post by malewithatail on Jun 12, 2022 11:19:49 GMT 10
The thing I've found in the last few years is that constantly being on high alert is exhausting. I have a family. I work full time. I don't even have the energy for general hobbies by the time the weekend comes around unless it's something that I can do from home. Spending time ruminating on exactly how badly the world is going to fall apart is therefore a complete waste of energy. Is it going to be bad? Hell yes. Can I change the level of 'badness' by spending time considering and ruminating on it? Absolutely not. Because here's the thing. I can't prepare more than I have. If the world is smoldering pools of slow moving lava, every electrical item is now sentient and my neighbour's toaster is now trying to kill me, and the last thing we have to eat is the family cat, we're at no more disadvantage for our prior preps than if we just go into lockdown and we can't go to the shops for two months because there's literally nothing more that I can achieve than I have with my current time and resources. Spending time using mental energy to calculate just how short my preps fall for a full world-ending scenario is mental self harm when you can do nothing further to change the situation. What does that achieve? Literally nothing apart from keeping me awake at night. I spend time thinking and planning for things that I can impact. I know someone who, bless his soul, is a tin hat theorist. Smart man. But he's fallen into a pit of 'following the money' and now every time anything even slightly close to a situation that he can't explain comes up, you can almost feel the blood vessels ready to explode in his head. I've asked him before what he can change about the situation. "Nothing, but that doesn't stop me from being angry about it!". I can't fathom... Why on earth would you do that to yourself?!! Being angry feels awful. It builds up all that energy, but you can't change the situation so you're literally giving your energy to nothing and 'they' don't even know. And if they did, they wouldn't care. So WHY DO THAT to yourself? I feel the same way about ruminating on stressful situations that I can't change. I can't change it. I can only do the best with what I have that I can and hope that it's enough when the time comes. Otherwise I might as well sit on the couch with zero preps and be fat dumb and happy like the rest of the folks that do the same. Well said mate. I have to check myself sometimes about starting to panic that this or that might happen. In reality, it will likely be something completely different that brings it all down, like an asteroid hitting the earth or something out of left field that couldn't have been foreseen.
In the world of the blind, a one eyed person is king, so it is with preppers. When its all falling down around your ears, having some sort of backup plan makes you king of the situation, and it doesn't have to be what you though would happen.
The elite have no doubt got many different scenarios to bring about the NWEO, and we cant do anything about it. I don't like being reactive, but proactive wont work as we don't know exactly how its going down, hence the stress.
Having the basics, food for a few months, alternative electric and comms, water supply's and waste disposal systems, basic requirements for a healthy life. And, if the balloons gone up, WW3 has happened and the Earth is a smoking, radioactive wasteland, then at least we can say we tried till the end. We cant stop these morons from pressing the big red button, so why worry about that ?
Just do what you can, within your means and you will be better off than 90 % + of the people around you who are losing their minds in panic. Although, I think that the general public are starting to wake up, given the shortage of gardening tools I saw in Norco last week, only 1 rake and a small shovel left on the rack.
As for us, we bugged out 18 years ago, although, back then I don't think it was called bugging out, and haven't looked back.
We have set up here for any family members and a few close friends to join us if they wish. So far only my sister and one of her kids has taken up the offer, and my mum and step dad say they will die in their house. So be it, its their choice.
4 out of our 5 children are here also, along with my Mother in Law, 9 total so far.
Besides, its a good mental exercise to think about possibilities and plan how to be a bit less dependent on the system, even if its only a temporary disruption of the system, due to a storm or other transient event.
This isn't the place to discuss it, but faith plays an important role in our preps as well.
If all goes well, you've overlooked something.
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Post by bug on Jun 12, 2022 12:29:42 GMT 10
On the plus side, an asteroid strike is almost zero probability now. We've spent the past 20 years hunting for them and have found over a million during that time. There should be virtually none above the 1km diameter left undiscovered. Ones 10-100m in size are still out there undiscovered in large numbers, but they are not the type that causes mass extinction. We can expect a Chelyabinsk sized one about every decade. Source: I spent five years working on this and discovered 7 of them myself.
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Post by tactile on Jun 12, 2022 13:35:34 GMT 10
You guys are like salivating dogs before a feed. Bring it on, the sooner it starts, the sooner its over and we preppers are not getting any younger.
There's a difference between preparing for it and wanting it. Why would you want it?
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Post by spatial on Jun 12, 2022 14:02:37 GMT 10
Prepping is a bottomless pit with endless things to acquire and endless skill sets to develop. Prepping fatigue is a real thing.. To keep to the thread things are accelerating the lava is expanding and starting to move to the surface with associated earthquake and tremors occurring regularly.. Now is the time to be vigilant.
Knowing what is coming, I make decisions accordingly. Give birthday and Christmas gifts that would be useful. Holidays that are more outdoors type activities. Being aware of what is coming and being prepared is peace of mined. 3 months of food and med storage would make a huge difference, it only takes a few hundred dollars. A 50 lb bag of rice is less than $32..
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Post by spatial on Jun 12, 2022 21:37:58 GMT 10
Months of trouble ahead. The US DHS has sent out a warning notice to first responders to expect months of trouble ahead. It has come up on a number of YT channels. "The Angry Prepper" who is a NY fireman has an interesting take on it. He was on one of the episodes of Doomsday Preppers, has a YT channel of 120k, a conservative black guy with unique take on things.
The warning notes extremist groups, the wade vs roe (abortion rights) being overturned, upcoming election in the US etc..
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Post by spatial on Jun 12, 2022 21:58:58 GMT 10
You guys are like salivating dogs before a feed. Is There Any Hope Left At This Point? A very balanced view...
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Post by dirtdiva on Jun 12, 2022 22:57:11 GMT 10
The thing I've found in the last few years is that constantly being on high alert is exhausting. I have a family. I work full time. I don't even have the energy for general hobbies by the time the weekend comes around unless it's something that I can do from home. Spending time ruminating on exactly how badly the world is going to fall apart is therefore a complete waste of energy. Is it going to be bad? Hell yes. Can I change the level of 'badness' by spending time considering and ruminating on it? Absolutely not. Because here's the thing. I can't prepare more than I have. If the world is smoldering pools of slow moving lava, every electrical item is now sentient and my neighbour's toaster is now trying to kill me, and the last thing we have to eat is the family cat, we're at no more disadvantage for our prior preps than if we just go into lockdown and we can't go to the shops for two months because there's literally nothing more that I can achieve than I have with my current time and resources. Spending time using mental energy to calculate just how short my preps fall for a full world-ending scenario is mental self harm when you can do nothing further to change the situation. What does that achieve? Literally nothing apart from keeping me awake at night. I spend time thinking and planning for things that I can impact. I know someone who, bless his soul, is a tin hat theorist. Smart man. But he's fallen into a pit of 'following the money' and now every time anything even slightly close to a situation that he can't explain comes up, you can almost feel the blood vessels ready to explode in his head. I've asked him before what he can change about the situation. "Nothing, but that doesn't stop me from being angry about it!". I can't fathom... Why on earth would you do that to yourself?!! Being angry feels awful. It builds up all that energy, but you can't change the situation so you're literally giving your energy to nothing and 'they' don't even know. And if they did, they wouldn't care. So WHY DO THAT to yourself? I feel the same way about ruminating on stressful situations that I can't change. I can't change it. I can only do the best with what I have that I can and hope that it's enough when the time comes. Otherwise I might as well sit on the couch with zero preps and be fat dumb and happy like the rest of the folks that do the same. Well said!! God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, the courage to change the things we can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
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Post by spatial on Jun 13, 2022 7:42:26 GMT 10
The thing I've found in the last few years is that constantly being on high alert is exhausting. I have a family. I work full time. I don't even have the energy for general hobbies by the time the weekend comes around unless it's something that I can do from home. Spending time ruminating on exactly how badly the world is going to fall apart is therefore a complete waste of energy. Is it going to be bad? Hell yes. Well said!! God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, the courage to change the things we can, and the wisdom to know the difference. The bases of all modern phycology is on the serenity quote. We still need to change things that we can and have some responsibility to warn people about what is coming. Part of being on a forum is that others with interest in economy, political interests and personal experience - or what southern Prepper1 calls boots on the ground. Truck drivers medial professionals, first responders, persons working in distribution can give us a heads up on what's going down. Seeing these things coming I fixed the interest rate on my house for 3 years two moths back. Have peace of mind for 3 years. All it took was a trip to the bank without an appointment but got it done in 10minutes. Constant bad news is going through the roof and is depressing for some but the flood of bad events are going to be overwhelming if not phycological prepared for it. 1929 bodies were raining down on the streets from bankruptcies and people having lost all hope. All one needs is 3 months food and med supply and know at lest my family is safe and can weather the initial storm. People actually what to hear what is going on.. YT channels that sprouting doom porn are getting record views... and comments from subscribers.
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Post by spatial on Jun 13, 2022 7:47:09 GMT 10
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