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Post by frostbite on Jul 8, 2022 17:31:25 GMT 10
That might work in countries where you can go from border to border in 100km, but what about here where the nearest shop might be 500km away?
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Post by Joey on Jul 8, 2022 18:04:21 GMT 10
They don't care, as we are just a minute part of the market and they won't run car models just for the 1% Australian market. So you won't see any more engines made for/by the likes of BMW, Mercedes, volvo, saab, etc Nissan has already dropped developing its own engines last year and will just use other engine makers to make their engines for them.
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Post by d on Jul 8, 2022 18:54:03 GMT 10
Tbh there will always be a market for ICE engines even if just with enthusiasts. I got out of the motor industry a while ago as the writing is on the wall, really does it matter if the dar you drive to the shops is electric? Nah not really As long as you can still drive the project car you love who cares, they just don’t need to keep mass producing these engines.
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Post by frostbite on Jul 8, 2022 19:06:37 GMT 10
I might consider a coal powered vehicle (no such thing as an electric vehicle) when they can go 700km on a single charge whilst towing 1.5 tonne.
Until then they are just a gimmick for latte sipping metro shallow thinkers.
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Post by d on Jul 8, 2022 20:56:58 GMT 10
I might consider a coal powered vehicle (no such thing as an electric vehicle) Care to explain?
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Post by frostbite on Jul 8, 2022 21:09:27 GMT 10
75% of Australia's electricity comes from coal fired power stations.
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Post by d on Jul 8, 2022 21:48:51 GMT 10
75% of Australia's electricity comes from coal fired power stations. electric vehicle = a vehicle powered by electricity.. there certainly are electric vehicles and have been for some time but I’m guessing you Think that nowhere in australia is there a house, off grid with solar and a battery with an EV in the garage and are trying to say there are no sustainable electric vehicles?
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Post by captain on Jul 9, 2022 0:12:53 GMT 10
75% of Australia's electricity comes from coal fired power stations. Did you know that all the power in Canberra is from renewable supplies - no coal. So electric vehicles in Canberra are just that- an electric vehicle. other municipalities are building their own micro grids too - all from renewables. So the move is on. Look towards the future and don’t generalise on old information. edit: in fact the growth and implementation of micro grids from renewables is a growth industry.
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Post by norseman on Jul 9, 2022 5:16:03 GMT 10
75% of Australia's electricity comes from coal fired power stations. Did you know that all the power in Canberra is from renewable supplies - no coal. So electric vehicles in Canberra are just that- an electric vehicle. other municipalities are building their own micro grids too - all from renewables. So the move is on. Look towards the future and don’t generalise on old information. edit: in fact the growth and implementation of micro grids from renewables is a growth industry. Does it rely on conventional power generation for back up?
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Post by frostbite on Jul 9, 2022 6:27:05 GMT 10
Canberra is a pimple on the arse of Australia. It's irrelevant to the overall situation in Australia, where the vast majority of electricity still comes from coal.
I'd love to have an ev vehicle, but until they can travel 700km towing a cubic metre of gravel or river sand and recharge in 10 minutes, then they are not fit for for purpose for me. We don't all live in micro cities sipping latte and going to flower festivals.
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Post by d on Jul 9, 2022 6:52:04 GMT 10
Canberra is a pimple on the arse of Australia. It's irrelevant to the overall situation in Australia, where the vast majority of electricity still comes from coal. I'd love to have an ev vehicle, but until they can travel 700km towing a cubic metre of gravel or river sand and recharge in 10 minutes, then they are not fit for for purpose for me. We don't all live in micro cities sipping latte and going to flower festivals. A question came to mind while I was sipping latte, why do you need to drive 700km to get river sand? Don’t they have sand where you are/ the ability to get sand more locally/ some sort of local river sand aficionados group where you can trade in your imported artisanal sands? the progress of the country isn’t really focused on passenger cars lugging dirt from one place to another place. What’s not discussed is vehicle types, commercials like utes, vans and trucks have a different use case which needs to be addressed before unilateral bans of new ICE powered cars can be reasonably considered. Also, Canberra is the best part of Australia, I can get both latte and river sand here.
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Post by norseman on Jul 9, 2022 7:44:33 GMT 10
Electric vehicles 'failing the police' in the UK
This on SKY yesterday!
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Post by d on Jul 9, 2022 8:14:31 GMT 10
Electric vehicles 'failing the police' in the UKThis on SKY yesterday!
Ah yes. Sky news a quality “news” source.
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Post by norseman on Jul 9, 2022 8:18:57 GMT 10
Electric vehicles 'failing the police' in the UKThis on SKY yesterday!
Ah yes. Sky news a quality “news” source. Let me guess mate you only view the ABC as a credible "news source" !
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Post by d on Jul 9, 2022 8:31:07 GMT 10
Ah yes. Sky news a quality “news” source. Let me guess mate you only view the ABC as a credible "news source" ! Nope, I like to listen to numerous sources and avoid it where possible but really this story is “Square peg, round hole.. peg to blame”
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Post by norseman on Jul 9, 2022 8:44:28 GMT 10
Let me guess mate you only view the ABC as a credible "news source" ! Nope, I like to listen to numerous sources and avoid it where possible but really this story is “Square peg, round hole.. peg to blame” Yep you're right mate they are all lying including the Senior UK Copper he is quoting! Should've known better!
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Post by d on Jul 9, 2022 8:55:26 GMT 10
Nope, I like to listen to numerous sources and avoid it where possible but really this story is “Square peg, round hole.. peg to blame” Yep you're right mate they are all lying including the Senior UK Copper he is quoting! Should've known better! No one said they are lying, it’s a case of the solution they bought does not suit their requirements- it’s an example of the reason we have so many consultants and subject matter experts working in our government, those with buying authority often have no idea about the actual problems the solution is supposed to address. Is a ratchet inherently bad because it sucks at driving nails? No it’s the wrong tool for the job.
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Post by norseman on Jul 9, 2022 9:12:32 GMT 10
Yep you're right mate they are all lying including the Senior UK Copper he is quoting! Should've known better! No one said they are lying, it’s a case of the solution they bought does not suit their requirements- it’s an example of the reason we have so many consultants and subject matter experts working in our government, those with buying authority often have no idea about the actual problems the solution is supposed to address. Is a ratchet inherently bad because it sucks at driving nails? No it’s the wrong tool for the job. I don't dispute it mate! I reckon the purchase of EV's was probably forced on them in the first place! My point is this crap will be a thousand times worse in Oz where we will blindly follow like we always do and or we get screwed because of bad advice!
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Post by malewithatail on Jul 9, 2022 9:36:58 GMT 10
75% of Australia's electricity comes from coal fired power stations. electric vehicle = a vehicle powered by electricity.. there certainly are electric vehicles and have been for some time but I’m guessing you Think that nowhere in australia is there a house, off grid with solar and a battery with an EV in the garage and are trying to say there are no sustainable electric vehicles? That would be the ultimate, every house, business etc, powered by renewables, and with an electric vehicle/truck/motorbike/tractor/header and so on, all powered by a charger in the respective house. Could get difficult to charge at night when the vehicle isn't being used, but the greenies have that all worked out im sure. And maybe trucks that don't stop can be recharged from buried wiring in the highways as is being tested in the UK. Oh, and don't tell the environazi's that the energy to power wind generators comes from the rotation of the Earth and by extracting it to power all these electric toys, we are slowing down the Earths rotation, and its measurable now.
Its as easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950....
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